thank you AZbuck and Mark. I will need to refference this to a map and work it out. I realise there is a lot of info on the forum about this route, but having trouble placing things as I know SF LA and LV and that's about it, so putting it into perspective for me is greatly appreciated.

Give me a day to reveiw, and I'll get back with my ideas if you are happy to have a look at for me.

Tham you both for not pointing out I can't spell san francisCo !

chris