We have come to the conclusion that we'd like to be able to enjoy a little more time with the kids before they start leaving school, starting to drive, getting jobs, going to nighclubs... Yes it's hella expensive but you only get to live this once so screw it. That said I think 2025 is going to be a little more low key and close to home. If we could do these trips in October I'd love to as a) it's cheaper and quieter b) we don't step out of the nicer time of the year in the UK but, as you say, it's not really an option. Sorry to take over your thread Mattyn1!