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  1. #21
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    Default Sometimes, houses were saved because...

    Actually, what burns in a wildfire is much more about luck than anything. When I left my yard in 1993 during the Altadena Fire, the roof on the house across the street was on fire --with ten-foot flames shooting out under the tile -- 95% of the house didn't burn -- while every other house on the street--including mine--was burned to the ground.

    At my sister's house, houses on all sides of her house were destroyed -- her house has some heat damage -- but it survived.

    Sometimes, houses were saved because of goal-line stands by fire fighters and/or residents, but fire is much more fickle than you might think.

    Mark

  2. #22
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    Default Secondary Effects Starting for Palisades

    There has just been an evacuation warning issued for the area around the Palisades fire. Rain is turning the burned out forest land to mud and holds the potential for major landslides.

    AZBuck

  3. #23
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    Default Mudflows in Eaton Canyon area too

    And a similar story in the Altadena area.

    The other side of the storms are the mudflows in the fire areas. Look at this video from the outflow side of the Sierra Madre Dam in southern California!

    When you look at the link above, set the playback at 12 hours -- in the lower right. Most of the night, it is just rain, but it gets light at about 5:30 am and it is just water streaming, but by about 11:30 am, the water turns to a muddy water flow.

    Bummer, the camera lost power at 1:54 PM.

    Mark

  4. #24
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    Default Not good!

    Here you can see the debris piling up overnight into this morning, and where it has spilled over the top causing some damage to the railing.



    Watching some of the latest news stories about the havoc the floods and mud slides are causing. Not good!

    Dave

  5. #25
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    Default Incredible amount of mud



    What you can't see from the photo above is that the debris from the last 24 hours filled up an area more than 160 feet deep by about 150 feet wide.


    This was taken on January 29th and before the rains came it was about 50 feet deeper!
    Photo courtesy of PasadenaNow.com and Jules Hotz for CalMatters

    The huge hole filled up with debris and mud at about Noon yesterday.

    Mark

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