Between Yosemite & Palm Springs | What to see, where to stay
Hi, I’m planning a trip where the main attractions are San Francisco (thinking of 4 days), Yosemite National Park (3 days) and finishing in Los Angeles (almost 2 days) with Palm Springs the night before (seeing a gig in PS).
Between Yosemite and Palm Springs, I want to see (a glimpse) of the Grand Canyon, spend like 2 hours in Las Vegas and spend a night in Jerome. Probably drive through Benton Hot Springs as it seems interesting.
The plan is to exit Yosemite on the 20th of April and arrive at Palm Springs on the 24th.
Do you think this is doable and what towns would you pick to visit and stay, between Yosemite and Palm Springs?
I want to avoid driving more than 4/5 hours. I thinks there’s no need to do so and we want to do some sightseeing, not just drive and drive!
General advices are also appreciated!
Thank you!
an excellent overview of what's possible
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Mr. Cookie
Probably drive through Benton Hot Springs as it seems interesting.
There are some amazing hot springs in California, I've been fortunate to have visited a dozen or so of them. However, visiting any of them, in the Sierra Nevada Mountains, on either the western or eastern slopes in April is going to be challenging. Benton Hot Springs is not technically in the Sierras, but you have to go through several mountain passes from Yosemite to reach Benton and even the road into Benton, if there is much snow, can be dicey at best. My all-time favorite hot spring resort is Mono Hot Springs, but the road will still be closed, due to snow in April.
However, there are some great hot springs in the Palm Springs area! One of the less-famous, but still in my top Five such hot spring resorts is Sam's in Desert Hot Springs.
Michael and AZBuck have already provided you an excellent overview of what's possible for your roadtrip in April.
My recommendation would be to spend those three days in Yosemite. Drive to Palm Springs (cutting out Las Vegas and all of Arizona) and then driving to LA. Maybe divert for overnight to Las Vegas. RTA is based in Las Vegas and there is a lot to see here. But if you really want to spend time outside of the car, you will need to drastically cut the scope of this trip.
Mark
Avoid the mountains, to see more of your planned trip
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Mr. Cookie
What is non-negotiable for me is Yosemite (depart from there on the 20th) and to arrive at Palm Springs on the 24th (I already bought tickets for the Sessanta tour).
OK, so Yosemite and the Sessanta concert in Palm Springs are the bookends for the road trip between April 20th and the 24th. And actually, I believe you are referring to the concert at the Acrisure Arena in Thousand Palms that starts at 8pm on the 24th. Are you staying overnight in the Palm Springs area or will this be an all-night concert?
No matter what, it seems to me that you would like the reach the venue city by 3pm to make sure you get to the arena on time.
By the most direct, and fastest route, it is 395 miles from Yosemite Valley to Thousand Palms. And given road conditions, weather, etc. You would need to allow 7 hours to cover that distance.
What is the connection with Cottonwood? Have you booked accommodations there? That is basically Verde Valley, which is beautiful, but sort of an odd destination.
If you wanted to add in the Arizona section, presumably you could travel from Yosemite to Kingman in one day -- this would be 504 miles or about 8.5 hours of travel. Or you could break into two days
So the night of the 20th in Kingman.
21st in Cottonwood, after seeing the Grand Canyon
And then a couple of days to get back to Thousand Palms.
As other posters have mentioned, you could fit in Joshua Tree National Park.
You could also pick up Death Valley NP (my favorite park in the USA)
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I have to jump into a meeting -- other folks will chime in soon.
Mark
If You Can Do 7 Hours on Day 1
...then you could get to Las Vegas on that first day and enjoy an overnight stay. Flagstaff (about as close as you can get to the Grand Canyon and still find reasonably priced lodging) is then an easy Day 2. It might even allow for a short side trip from Flag to Meteor Crater before returning to Flag for the night. Next up, head for Grand Canyon Village via US-189/AZ-64 and drive the Rim Road east to US-89/AZ-89A down through the Verde Valley to Cottonwood for easily the most scenic drive of this trip. Jerome is less than 10 miles from Cottonwood and you could include it as an excursion from Cottonwood. But you will have to continue on and get to the northern suburbs of Phoenix by the end Day 3. Your last day would then be about 300 miles to Palm Springs, all via Interstate, so it should be doable in 5 hours. With a decent start and stopping just for lunch, you could be in Palm Springs by mid-afternoon.
Just remember the immortal words of Robert Burns, "The best laid schemes o’ Mice an’ Men Gang aft agley."
AZBuck
So, what are your thoughts now?
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Mr. Cookie
Hi, I’m planning a trip where the main attractions are San Francisco (thinking of 4 days), Yosemite National Park (3 days) and finishing in Los Angeles (almost 2 days) with Palm Springs the night before (seeing a gig in PS).
So, you have had a number of suggestions, we would love to know what you are planning to do.
Once we know that, we can share some insider tips from the semi-pro roadtrippers who are active on this board about our favorite places along your planned route.
Mark
I may not have made myself clear...
My original recommendation was:
Day 1) Drive to Las Vegas and spend the night
Day 2) Drive to Flagstaff and spend the night, perhaps make a side trip to Meteor (Berringer) Crater, if you arrive early enough.
Day 3) Drive around the Grand Canyon loop, then down through Verde Valley with stops in Cottonwood and/or Jerome. Continue to the northern suburbs of Phoenix and spend the night
Day 4) Drive to Palm Springs, perhaps a short side trip up to the ranger station in Joshua Tree NP, arrive Palm Springs.
There are two things I might change given your circumstances. You could more evenly spread out the driving on Days 1 and 2 by stopping for the night at Barstow/Yerma CA at the end of Day 1 then continue on through Las Vegas to Flagstaff on Day 2. That would be about 315 mi./6 hrs on Day 1 and 341 mi./5˝ hrs on Day 2. You would have an hour or two to explore Las Vegas by daylight.
The other thing I would change from my previous recommendation is that you do the Grand Canyon loop in a counter-clockwise direction: US-89 north out of Flag, AZ-64 along the Canyon Rim and then back down to US-180 into Flag but continue on down US-89/AZ-89A through the Verde Valley. The advantage of doing it in this direction is that the Grand Canyon will be on 'your' side of the road as you drive along it making pull-offs at view points that much easier. Also on your drive through the Verde Valley, the town of Sedona might be a good place to take a short walk just to see the town.
Hope that clears things up a bit.
AZBuck
in Thousand Palms last weekend.
It occurred to me that we've overlooked another route over the Sierra Nevadas -- which you could use to go from Yosemite Valley to US-395 on your trip south.
CalTrans does everything it can to keep Carson Pass open each winter. Hwy 88 is a bit of a detour northward -- but less than either US-50 or I-80.
Today, it is open (with chains)
So, it is likely to be open in April too!
--> And George (GLC) mentioned this in an earlier post too -- Scroll up to post #12.
I was just in Thousand Palms last weekend.
Mark
What does this "Internet Access Fee" cost?
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Mr. Cookie
I think I'm going to do just 2 full days in Yosemite instead of the 3 full days that were inicial planned.
Hard to predict how good a winter we will have -- but the waterfalls should all be flowing when are in Yosemite!
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Mr. Cookie
To have internet there we have to pay a value each day. It's gonna be expensive but I have to have it to keep in touch of the park warnings and road warnings and maps/waze.
Are you sure that your telephone service won't just include the Web access? Or if there is an International roaming fee, it should be a lower cost than it sounds like you are considering?
Please share your current plans for this route
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Mr. Cookie
That leaves me with an extra day. Either I spend one more day in SF or i have one more day between Yosemite and Palm Springs and that allows us to have more fun on the road and see more stuff. And not to drive a lot each day.
I'm more inclined to do just that..
So, there are so many suggestions in the thread above for this leg between Yosemite and Palm Springs that in order to answer your latest question, please share what your current plans are and then we can (perhaps) share some more insights.
Mark
Maybe things have changed......
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glc
Have you looked into buying a prepaid SIM when you arrive here?
If that service which is available on every continent (other than Antarctica) was availabe in North America, I would not have gone the way of buying my own phone with its contract. I was able to do it in Asia and in Europe, and assumed I would do the same when planning my first trip to the USA. But no, I was assured by all advisors that it was not possible. - Right up to 2020 it was not available.
For data, I used free wifi, which was available everywhere.
Lifey
The reality of Google Maps
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Mr. Cookie
I have google maps prints with less than 6 hours but now it doesn't give me those results. I must be wrong.
So, the estimated times listed on a Google Map are based on algorithm that is supposed to take into account current driving conditions. So, if you ran the same route, on Google, once a day for a week or so, it would--most likely--give you different times. As a reality test, having driven to Yosemite from Las Vegas a bunch of times, the average speed that you can expect to achieve is 57 mph and that is assuming that you can drive 80 mph in certain stretches. If the weather is not cooperating or there is Tule Fog in the valley -- which is possible--that trip could be much longer than eight hours.
The other reality is that Google Maps do not take in account, stopping for fuel or food or construction delays.
Mark
Some places to stay in Arizona
Howdy!
If you end up staying anywhere near Sedona, one place I can personally recommend is the Sky Ranch Lodge. It's in Sedona, but it's located on top of Airport Mesa, the flat-topped butte where they put Sedona's tiny airport. The Sky Ranch is like a motel with a view (and an amazing view, at that). Rooms go for maybe $200 a night. You can get cheaper in Village of Oak Creek, or Camp Verde, or Cottonwood, but the Sky Ranch is more than just a room for the night.
If you're staying in Flagstaff, lodging options run the full spectrum. Beware of the cheaper, aging motels on the main drag--most of them aren't all that well maintained, and service is sadly lacking. A better bet would be Little America, or if you like business class properties, there's an Embassy Suites and a Drury Inn; all of those are quite nice, and if you like historic hotels, check out the Monte Vista downtown.
Last but not least: if you'd like to stay in a haunted hotel in ghost town Jerome, the Jerome Grand Hotel comes highly recommended. (They even offer a nightly "ghost tour.")
Rick