RVer's Advice, 50 days starting Phoenix for UK couple
This is a very old thread but I thought I would add that I am close to agreeing a deal to buy an RV privately in the USA. The owner is an Aussie and has registered and insured the vehicle in Florida as a foreign resident. You need a US address to do this but they are easily acquired. He does say that his insurance is maybe double what it would be if he had a US drivers license. He also has a bank account, but I will be asking him about this, harder to get than the insurance.
I hope if the deal goes through to register in Arizona, no annual test outside of Phoenix and Tucson and warm enough not to need winterising when away. Regarding the Visa Waiver program we plan to do our Road Trip in 2 month sections, gives us a little spare time for emergencies that may arise.
Sort everything else before purchase.
Hi tourist and welcome to RTA ! I would make sure you are certain of everything else for you personally before going ahead and making a purchase and know exactly whats involved and the overall cost of getting it registered and legal for the road, its a bit of a minefield. I am not sure what you mean about doing your trips in 2 month sections but with an ESTA and as a visitor you can only spend 90 days a year in the US [I think] so it isnt a case of just flying in and out as you please. Good luck !!
Hope it will turn out as eas6y as you think.
Hello Tourist and Welcome to the Great American Roadtrip Forum.
So I take it you are not a US citizen, and you are buying an RV from an Aussie who no longer needs it.
If you plan on taking multiple trips of two months at a time, that would work. Will you be storing and insuring it in AZ, and if so where will you get your address? It would be good to hear what insurance company you will be using, as I found only one which would insure non-residents. However, the office with which I dealt has now closed, and trying to contact other offices of the same company has been a challenge.
If you are going to store your RV in AZ have you enquired about the storage costs? My van is stored in a commercial storage in NC for $19/month - but most I looked at out west ran well into the hundreds per month.
All these costs add up.
Lifey
There are agents out there, but be sure it is what you want.
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Tourist
What I would have liked to find would be an agency that would do all that stuff for us but have not yet managed to find one, at least not one that replies to emails!
That is what I did. It was not particularly cheap, but so worthwhile. Did everything, other than the insurance. Even though I did most by email, I did do a lot by phone. I ring the freecall number using Skype, and costs nothing at this end.
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I do have insurance company names from the current owner, though it's not automatic they would cover me too. However I haven't seen the RV yet, that's the next thing. If the worst comes to the worst we'll change the owner details in Florida and do exactly what he did. However as the vehicle is out west it would be nice to start there.
At the end of each trip I cancel my insurance and get refunded the balance. So each time I have to re insure, which I am in the middle of doing right now.
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Southwest Dave
I am not sure what you mean about doing your trips in 2 month sections but with an ESTA and as a visitor you can only spend 90 days a year in the US ........
Dave, I think that is not quite right. Even though I have the visa, I am able to travel in and out without questions being asked, so long as I have left North America. I think they would ask questions if you were flying in and out every fourteen weeks during a full year.
But I agree with Michael, for two 2 month stints it would just not be worth it. I was looking for a thread on here from travellers from Canada, who bought an RV second hand and had a nightmare of a trip. which ended by leaving the RV and could not even take all their possessions home. And they were much closer than you are.
[I bought my van in 2011, used it for 6 months in 2012, 2013 and 2014, and will be going back soon for another 5 months. That makes it worthwhile.]
Lifey
It takes a lot of work, but hope it is worth it for you.
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In which state did you register? Would your agent be of use to me? I could Skype the agent I sent an email to, but promises that they can achieve stuff are better if they're on paper in the first instance.
It is irrelevant where the vehicle is located, so long as it is in a State which will allow the vehicle to be registered in MT. I know CA is one of the States which does not allow it for local reasons. If you make contact ask for Duncan and be sure to tell him Lifemagician sent you. Not that I get anything out of it, but it is nice to keep in contact. There is a fee for their services and then an annual fee to keep the vehicle registered. From what I gather Duncan is the one who does all these registrations for non-residents. Most of what we discussed was confirmed in emails. It was just lovely to be able to explain what I do and why I do it the way I do. He's a great guy. So is his boss.
I have met folk on the road who had used the same firm and person. they were from Sydney. I recognised them by the flag in their rear window - which is something I always do, have the flag in the rear window of your vehicle.
[Duncan loved it when I sent him the Youtube video of Slim Dusty singing Gotta Have a Drink With Duncan.]
I will probably call in in July to pay my fees for next year. Can be done in other ways, but since I am likely to be up there, may as well do it in person.
Now, before buying, I would contact the local dealership of the brand to give it a thorough check over. I organised that by phone as well. I looked up the Ford Dealer in the town where the vehicle was for sale, and spoke to the service manager. They collected it, checked it out and took it back. I had given a list of things by those who know these things, to have checked. Because doing this long distance they usually want payment up front, or at least a credit card, and will send the invoice, comments and receipt by email.
You may be interested in checking out this thread..... with all its woes along the way. lol
Lifey
RVer's Advice, 50 days starting Phoenix for UK couple
So much on the RTA forum is about car trips, and of course we will work out our own so this is a little cheeky but advice is always welcome if you did something similar. We have acquired an RV and tow car, stored now in Phoenix, and we will be coming out on a 60 day ESTA on about Jan 4th 2017. Allowing for problems and storage we thought 50 days a good basis for planning. We thought to allow for 30 miles a day, meaning only staying 3 days means a 90 mile catch-up stay a week and it's 210 rather than a daily must-do. So max distance 1500 miles.
At the end of the 50 days, about Feb 24 say, we'd like to head north to a storage facility close to an airline hub or railway junction for return to the UK, (Denver??), in preparation for another 50 days heading north in summer. A hard days drive or two at the end might be OK.
Naturally we'd like to cover the best bits of the southwest, and I'd like to see Quartzsite just for its RV-ness and Las Vegas, because its there! Seeing less and enjoying more is also good, so if we need to stick mostly to the big natural wonders, that'll be more than OK. I like a good view but eat the food and meet the people is also important.
60 or 90 days, can't remember, is the ESTA limit but we think 60 days is also our limit, home and family duties and other fun things for the retired will be calling us by then.
Thanks
John
Moderator Note: We prefer to keep everything about one trip together, so I've moved the posts from your previous discussion here.
Monument Valley to the Grand Canyon Village
All things going well we'll have an extra day between Monument Valley and our booking at the Grand Canyon. Without greatly adding to the 177 mile trip is there somewhere really nice, a good camp ground or BLM to park an RV for the night? Say between Tonalea and Tuba City?
Thanks
Merged threads again. As mentioned before, please keep all questions here.
Have you considered Canyon de Chelly?
Hello:
We all seem to have our favorite recommendations for folks who come to this Forum seeking advice. Me? I like to recommend Canyon de Chelly. If you're going to be in Monument Valley, it seems a shame not to go a little out of your way to view this marvelous canyon, which has amazing sandstone formations, as well as wonderful cliff dwellings, and Navajo farms on the canyon floor. The most direct route from Kayenta to Tuba City is about 75 miles. If you stop at Canyon de Chelly, you'd be going about 150 miles out of your way, altogether, but along with Canyon de Chelly, you could also get a taste of the Hopi Reservation, by crossing Black Mesa on AZ 264 on your way to rejoin US 89 and proceed to the south rim.
If that sounds interesting, here's what you could do: take US 160 east from Kayenta, less than 10 miles, to Navajo Route 59. Follow that through Rough Rock to Many Farms (about 50 or 60 miles altogether, all on a good paved road). In Many Farms you'll join US 191, which you'll take south to Chinle, the gateway to Canyon de Chelly. There's no entrance fee to this national monument, and you can see quite a lot from the rim drives. Spider Rock Campground at the end of the South Rim Drive would be a good spot to overnight in your RV. Next day, follow US 191 south, about 30 miles, to AZ 264. Follow that through all three of the Hopi Mesas (small, very traditional villages, including Old Oraibi, the oldest continuously occupied community in North America). After transiting Hopiland, you'll end up in Tuba City. This would be a fascinating route, I should think, both in terms of scenery, and the opportunity to take a tour through the heartland of two very different Native American cultures. The Hopi culture is ancient--their roots in the region go back 2,000 years, and they are considered the least assimilated of all the American tribes.
I can provide more specific information if you'd like. I also have a post in my blog about
Canyon de Chelly. Click the link if you'd like to read it. They call this area the four corners (because four states join in one spot: Arizona, Utah, Colorado, and New Mexico). I'm an Arizona native, and in my opinion, this area encompasses some of the very best of what Arizona has to offer.
Rick
Too long for a sermon maybe, but not for a trip report.
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Lifey, on this forum, suggested I should write something about my travels. Of course having not written anything for two years it would start to look like “War and Peace”, longer running than “Ben Hur”, also boring.
So far I have enjoyed every word - not boring at all!
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The American comedian George Burns said, “The secret of a good sermon is to have a good beginning and a good ending, and have the two as close together as possible!”.
For those wishing to go there, the detail in your relating the adventure could be of great interest. For those who have been there, it is reliving the experience with you.
Looking forward to the next chapter.
Lifey