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When I drove from Florida to California, I spent the night in my car at rest areas along the way. This absolutely infuriated my mother when she found out but, other than a few freezing nights, it was a rather uneventful trip and I think I actually saved time doing this as well. Obviously, there are risks sleeping in your car just as there are risks crossing the road. That being said, is it considered ridiculously dangerous to sleep in your car at rest stops through the night?
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Yes, there are risks in anything we do. I am old enough to remember when there was a prison break from the Florence, Arizona state prison. The prisoners killed a family that had pulled over at an Arizona interstate rest area, in the middle of the night. Ever since, my husband and I have refused to stop at any rest area during the dark hours.
Add to this fact, that in many areas, overnight parking in a rest area is illegal. Most of these are signed to this effect. Sometimes they say 4-hour maximum, or something like that.
If one must sleep in ones car overnight, you're better off in a truck stop that allows overnight parking. Ask at the desk, and if it's permitted, they will tell you where you can park. Most of them are patrolled. The only problem with this idea is that you may have lights in your face and engines running all night.
Some folks have tried staying overnight in parking lots of hospitals, department stores such as Walmart & Target, on a neighborhood street, and similar. Hospitals aren't really thrilled about it unless you have a family member that's been admitted. Walmart and Target may have signs saying no overnight parking. A neighborhood street may have a cop waking you up in the middle of the night and asking you to move on.
The best bet is either to save your money for a cheap motel or a hostel, or (when weather is cooperative) stay in a campground.
Donna
This is a topic that comes up from time to time, and past advice is still pretty relevant, so check out these previous discussions:
Sleeping at rest stops....safe?
Sleeping in your car....safe? Yay or nay?
Sleeping-in-the-car?
AZBuck
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When it comes to sleeping in your car, there really aren't many places that would be more dangerous than a rest area. There have been many, documented cases of people being attacked at rest areas. The problem with rest areas is that they are generally pretty far removed from towns, don't see much in the way of patrols, and because they are right along the interstate, criminals can be miles away before anyone can respond.
If you really have a desire to sleep in your car, then there are much better places. Truck stops, for example, generally are fairly welcoming of people sleeping in their car. They are much better lit and much better patrolled. Some shopping centers - particularly 24 hour ones - may allow you to stay there overnight, however be aware that just as many will forbid it, in fact many city's have created laws banning it. In any case where you plan to spend the night in a private parking lot, you should check with the management first.
Parking any place without a permission - be it a truck stop, store, hospital, etc without permission is really an invitation to be rudely woken up in the middle of the night.
The only rest areas where it's safe to sleep overnight are ones that have 24 hour security - which I think are only in Mississippi and Florida. Everywhere else it's not safe, illegal, or both. Your mother was right in being upset.
GLC reminded me, I was going to mention that Florida was an exception, because they do provide 24 hour security at their rest areas.
Of course, the reason they have that security is they had a particularly bad run of crimes at rest areas before the security was put in place - including some high profile murders about 20 years ago.
To reinforce what has already been said, and as one who spends a lot of nights sleeping in my van, the last place I would stop is a rest area. As mentioned the 24 hour truck stops and other businesses are generally safe, with permission. Permission is most important as vehicles which look like they are just parked are often towed.
As Michael said, FL introduced security at rest areas after a whole family was murdered, years ago. In MS there are rest areas with overnight security. You see the signs on your approach. I still always speak to the security officer, and ask where the best place is to park. Then they know I am there, and keep an eye on the vehicle overnight.
Like eveything else, just because you got away with it this time, and I am ever so glad you did, don't assume that it is always safe. Try to make better choices next trip.
Lifey
Thanks for the advice, everyone! I'm now reconsidering rest stops and actually pretty scared that I even did it the first time around after reading all of this! At the risk of sounding completely stupid, would someone tell me what the difference between a truck stop and a rest stop is? It may sound like a dumb question, but there were trucks stopped at every rest stop I slept at so I'm not sure I know the difference.
A Truck stop is more commonly known these days as Travel Centers -- because they cater to long-haul truckers, RV'ers and car road trippers.
But a Travel Center/Truck Stop has space for scores -- sometimes hundreds of trucks to park, a store, showers, a restaurant, filling station for cars and trucks. And most importantly, all are privately owned -- commercial places. Rest stops are managed and owned by the Department of Transportation in the states that they are located in and are owned by the government. Most do not have restaurants and none of them have garages for trucks.
Here are some more info about one of the largest such operators in the USA.
Rest stops are actually on the highway, they generally only have bathrooms and vending machines, some have tourist info centers that are manned part-time. Truck stops are off the highway at exits and are full service commercial ventures open 24 hours.
It should be noted that Truckers do sleep at rest areas all the time, but usually because they don't have a choice. Truckers are required to follow very specific rules about how many hours they can be on the road (it works out to roughly 600 miles a day), and when that time is up, they have to stop - and if a rest area is the closest place to stop, then that's where they stop. Nearly all truckers much prefer to stop at a Truck Stop if possible.
Of course, Truckers also have the distinct advantage that they have sleeper cabs to isolate themselves from the outside - unlike someone who is sleeping in a car, where the only thing between you and a potential problem is the glass in your windows.
No such thing as a stupid question. I'm glad you asked.
For me the biggest difference is the security. Brightly lit with people coming and going all night. You have told the management that you will be there, and they told you where to park, meaning they will keep an eye on you. Furthermore, many have extra security all night long, and the local constabulary regularly loop through the lot, even if only to get a coffee. All this helps to keep trouble at arm's length.
Lastly, should anything happen you have somewhere to go or hitting the horn would soon bring management/security to your vehicle.
As Michael said, truckers often do not have a choice. But then trucks are not as easy a target as cars, though I have read about loads been stolen from trucks at rest areas.
Lifey
Thanks so much for clarifying! I really appreciate everyone taking the time to explain it to me. On my trip, I didn't leave the freeway much so I was more than likely never at a truck stop. In the future, I'll probably just make sure I have the money for a hotel before hitting the road.
Truck stops are right at freeway exits. You might well have purchased fuel at one, without realizing. Prices are often less at truck stops/travel plazas because of the volume of fuel they sell every day.
Mark
That is the best thing to do, but if you must you can be relatively safe in the parking lot of a 24 hour truck stop/travel center such as Pilot, Flying J, Petro, Loves, or TA. Ask permission, park where directed, and give the establishment some business such as buy a tank of gas, a meal, stuff out of the convenience store, etc. You can also buy a shower if you need one, expect that to cost $10 to $15.
Ah, I think I stopped at a Flying J while I was living in Florida but I was just driving a few hours for the holidays so there was no need to spend the night.Quote:
Originally Posted by glc