Eastern NC to Vegas via I-40! (AGAIN!)

Hi, guys!

I am so excited that I found this forum.

My husband and I are actually accidental road-trippers. We never knew this would be a passion of ours.

Our first trip was in February 2014 and took us from eastern NC to Nashville, TN. We then traveled through Kentucky, Illinois, Missouri, Kansas, Colorado and Utah to our final destination, Las Vegas, NV. When we left, we went through Arizona, New Mexico, up to Colorado and back home the same way that we went.

Our second trip was in December 2014 (when we got married in Vegas, on Christmas Eve!). We took I-40 all the way to Vegas, then back.

We are now planning yet another trip for December 2015, to Vegas via I-40 again. :)

Our last trip was pretty stressful because we pushed hard and only gave ourselves 3 days to get there. We still had a total blast, but I'm wondering if anyone has any advice to give us for this time to make things a little less stressful. We'll be staying in Vegas for 8 days this time instead of 3 last time, so we will have a lot more time to "rest up" before heading back.

Welcome aboard the RoadTrip America Forums!

If you want a less stressful RoadTrip, you already know what you have to do. Give yourselves more time. Three days not only makes for a stressful 2400 mile trip, it makes for an incredibly unsafe one as well. 800 miles a day is simply unwise and unsafe even with two drivers. If you want to (finally!) relax and enjoy your drive to Las Vegas, you need to budget around four and a half days, one-way, between 'eastern North Carolina' (I used Goldsboro for rough planning purposes) and Las Vegas. NO LESS.

But four and a half days will give you a chance to relax and actually see something of the country in between that you've so far blown by so fast that you might as well have flown. Mostly what you'll be able to see are local parks and attractions just off I-40, but you can - by spending only a little more time, say another half day - have time for one modest detour eastbound and another westbound. Your possible choices include Great Smoky Mountains, Memphis, Hot Springs National Park, the Oklahoma City Memorial, Santa Fe NM and the Turquoise Trail back to I-40 at Albuquerque, and the Grand Canyon.

If you really want an enjoyable trip, spend your additional time on the road, not 'resting up' in Vegas for a drive that's stressful because you're pushing it into too little time.

AZBuck

Hi AZBuck! Thanks for the fast response!

It's funny that you chose Goldsboro, because that's where we live! Well, we actually live in a teeny town in the same county (about 10 miles away), but close enough!

We did see the Grand Canyon (and the Hoover Dam and Lake Mead!) on our first trip. We are thinking about taking a helicopter tour from Vegas to see it again this time, but we probably won't drive out that way.

I agree -- our last trip was too much. Actually, my now-husband drove the entire way on the 1st day of our December trip -- he drove all the way from here to just past the Oklahoma border. I think it took about 18 hours. In hindsight, it was really stupid and dangerous, but he was so pumped and alert that it seemed fine, ya know? I was awake with him the whole time, but he just wanted to drive.

The second day of our trip, though, we only made it to Tucumcari, NM because we ran into TERRIBLE weather coming out of Texas. The snowflakes seemed to be the size of golfballs, and even though the road wasn't slick (yet), the visibility was terrible...particularly with the huge semis that were flying past us. We drove about 12 hours on our last day, and it was actually the best day of our trip, but it was still a long day. We were so exhausted that we spent most of our Vegas trip sleeping...but we did manage to wake up to make it down the aisle. ;)

Thanks for the suggestions about things to check out. I would love to spend a little more time in Memphis this time around. I would also like to check out Albuquerque a little more -- it was gorgeous! We also want to see the Meteorite and possibly just other things that we see and find interesting.

Sorry for the babbling! I'm just so excited to be in a place where I can talk about this. Everyone that I talk to is like...."Ummm, why don't you guys just fly????" I think they think we're crazy!

You should be aware that helicopter tours of the Grand Canyon based out of Vegas don't really go to the Grand Canyon - as in the National Park. Where they go is the West Rim, the section of the canyon on Indian lands that is much closer to Vegas, but also only about half as deep as the National Park. That is also where the skywalk is located.

While you may have stopped at the Grand Canyon on your last trip, I can say it would have been impossible to see it on your homicidal timeline (and let's be clear, while it may not have "felt" bad at the time, what you guys did was every bit as dangerous as drunk driving. If you were to even think about doing that pace again, I would be joining your friends in begging you to fly, just so you don't hurt someone else.) The actual Grand Canyon National Park is a huge place, and even if you don't do any serious hiking, it takes at least a half day, and preferably a full day, to get to see all of the miles of different viewpoints and really appreciate just how amazing the place is, so it could really be worth your time to go back there.

Of course, everything still depends upon how much time you're actually going to give yourself for the trip this time. 4 full days is the minimum amount of time you need to do this trip SAFELY, and that's just for the drive. That doesn't factor in time for extra stops to explore places like Memphis and Albuquerque, not to mention additional time if you again see bad weather. If you gave yourself 5 days for the drive, that would give you a half day in each Memphis and Albuquerque. For your return trip, it would also open up the possibility of using a different route. Going up to I-70, for example, only adds about 100 miles, and is within reason if you're not just planning a scorched earth speed run across the country. Dipping down and heading through Dallas and Atlanta would also be a way to see some different countryside without adding much for miles.

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Originally Posted by lmking1224

Everyone that I talk to is like...."Ummm, why don't you guys just fly????" I think they think we're crazy!

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As well they might, if you were thinking of repeating your last trip. I am just pleased that you are here to tell the tale. glad you feel you can talk about it.

Perhaps both of you would benefit greatly from reading 'The Art of a Roadtrip'. After all, your previous trips can't really be called 'roadtrips'. You never stopped to enjoy, explore and learn a lot more about the country you call home.

I take it you are planning this with good detailed maps, such as those from AAA. On those you can see all the places Buck mentions above, and lots more, giving you lots of choices for stops along the way.

Lifey

Welcome to the RTA Forum.

Eight days in Vegas? Are you both gamblers, or do you just love the entertainment? There's a lot more to see near Las Vegas than there is inside the city. Five of those eight days would get you to five national parks and several state parks with a side trip on iconic Route 66. There is just so much to see out there!

Here are some ideas for routes and places to see most within a day's drive. If you really want to become road trippers, you have to trade 'gambling' for 'gamboling' (look them up) to enjoy the scenery.

Good luck on your planning and congratulations on your marriage.

Welcome aboard RTA!

I'm with Harry, above ... do you really need 8 days in Vegas? So much to see and do in the area, within a few hours' drive. Zion National Park is about a 3 hour drive. Valley of Fire State Park is about an hour out of LV. Both are beautiful...I've been to both and highly recommend them. About an hour north of Zion is Bryce Canyon National Park ... another gorgeous place. The Grand Canyon is about 5 hours drive to the South Rim of the National Park. (As has been mentioned above, the helicopter tour AND the bus tours out of Las Vegas do NOT take you to the national park, they take you to the Native-American-owned West Rim.)


Donna

Thanks so much for the responses, y'all, even if they were just to call us crazy. ;)

We actually saw the Grand Canyon on our first trip -- not our second one -- when we took I-70 to Vegas. We looped down to see the Grand Canyon and came back up into Colorado. That trip was not as quick as our last one. We actually took 6 days each way.

The reason we shortened our trip so much the second time is because hubby felt that our first trip was a little TOO leisurely and that we could do it much quicker the second time. We kind of overestimated ourselves and overdid it, though.

I don't really want to shorten our time in Vegas -- and we did already book our hotel. We're actually going to three UFC fights in a row (Dec 10, 11 and 12) because my husband is a UFC freak. Between going to the fights and going to the weigh-ins and such, 3 1/2 days are going to be pretty much JUST UFC. Even though we've been to Vegas twice, we've never been able to do everything that we wanted to do. I'm thinking that the first day that we get there, we will be tired and won't do much. Then, we'll have 1.5 days to just do the stuff we want to do there, then 3 days of UFC fights, then 2 more days to do "stuff." So, maybe it's not quite as excessive as it seems?

We're not necessarily on a tight time schedule because we're both self-employed and are planning ahead for it, but there does come a certain point where a trip is a little too long and you're just homesick. I'm thinking 4.5 days -- arriving in Vegas on the 5th day -- will probably be okay.

Oh, and now we are actually thinking about taking I-70 one way and I-40 the other. Hubby would like to visit Colorado again. I'll talk to him about maybe heading to the Grand Canyon again.

Thanks again for everyone's input.

OK...this is our rough itinerary right now:

December 4th -
Leave Goldsboro, NC @ 7:00 a.m.
Arrive in Nashville, TN @ ~4:00 p.m. (including 1hr time change)
See Country Music Hall of Fame
Go out to dinner with sister-in-law
Crash in hotel

December 5th -
Breakfast w/sister-in-law
Leave @ 10:00 a.m.
Arrive in Oklahoma City, OK @ 9:00-10:00 p.m.
Crash in hotel

December 6th -
See Oklahoma City memorial
See National Cowboy & Western History Museum
Leave Oklahoma City @ 1:00 p.m.
Arrive in Albuquerque, NM @ 10:00ish p.m. (including 1 hour time change)

December 7th -
See Indian Pueblo Cultural Center
Leave Albuquerque @ 12:00 p.m.
Arrive in Las Vegas, NV @ 10:00 p.m. (including 1 hr time change)

December 8th-15th -
Vegas

December 15th -
Leave @ 6:00 a.m.
Arrive in Denver, CO @ 8:00 p.m.

December 16th -
Denver, CO

December 17th -
Denver, CO

December 18th -
Leave Denver @ 8:00 a.m.
Arrive in Kansas City, KS @ 8:00 p.m.

December 19th-
Leave Kansas City @ 8:00 a.m.
Arrive in Lexington, KY @ 8:00 p.m.

December 20th-
See Horse Stuff
Leave Lexington, KY @ 1:00 p.m.
Arrive home in Goldsboro, NC @ midnight

Wow! You are really gluttons for punishment.

You'll average 600 miles/day and at least 10 hours driving with only two stopovers. (I don't consider crashing for a few hours in a hotel/motel a stopover - it's just a rest break) And you'll be driving a lot of those miles in the dark with lots of wildlife hazards and other handicaps of nighttime driving.

You really won't be able to stop and see anything along the way with that schedule, and that isn't road tripping to me, it's road torture. I recommend that you reconsider and try to break it up into 400-500 mile segments if at all possible.

Listen, we can tell you all day and all night how dangerous it is to plan to push yourself to the brink of exhaustion, by trying to push yourself beyond the limits of what the human body can safely do. Professional drivers are limited by law to driving roughly 600 miles in a day - after which they are required to rest. Your plan has multiple days where you plan to drive more than 700 miles, and you've got quite a few "short" days that are about 600 miles, but on most of those "short" days, you're also planning to do siteseeing on top of those long hours on the road.

While your plan isn't as homicidal as your previous drive, it's still beyond the limits that most rational people - and tons of scientific research - would consider safe, much less enjoyable. Ultimately, however, we can only warn you of the dangers, you're the one who has to decide how you'll act.

I'd like to take this one day at a time and make some suggestions:

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Leave Goldsboro, NC @ 7:00 a.m. Arrive in Nashville, TN @ ~4:00 p.m. (including 1hr time change) See Country Music Hall of Fame Go out to dinner with sister-in-law Crash in hotel

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OK, you've left 9 hours to make a trip of 591 miles. If this were me, I'd assume that I wasn't going to make it in 9 hours, but in perhaps 11. You have to stop for food, gas, and pit stops. Did you pull the travel times from an online mapping website like Mapquest? They're notoriously wrong. If you really, really want to make Nashville before the Hall of Fame closes (and leave enough time to SEE it), leave at 5 in the morning. That means packing the car the night before.

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December 5th - Breakfast w/sister-in-law Leave @ 10:00 a.m. Arrive in Oklahoma City, OK @ 9:00-10:00 p.m. Crash in hotel

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This is not a good idea. Chances are, you're not going to leave as early as you think. You've got traffic through Memphis to think about. Also, this is almost 700 miles -- as others have said, you should only plan to drive 600 miles MAX in a day.

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December 6th - See Oklahoma City memorial See National Cowboy & Western History Museum Leave Oklahoma City @ 1:00 p.m. Arrive in Albuquerque, NM @ 10:00ish p.m. (including 1 hour time change)

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Possible to make this drive in about 10 hours, but have you looked into the opening times for the places you want to see?

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December 7th - See Indian Pueblo Cultural Center Leave Albuquerque @ 12:00 p.m. Arrive in Las Vegas, NV @ 10:00 p.m. (including 1 hr time change)

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Once again, this is almost 600 miles (11 hours drive) after a sightseeing morning.

Like the others, this is a lot for a body to endure, and I don't think it would be pleasurable either. My husband and I don't USUALLY sightsee on any driving day of 500 miles or more. We have done it on occasion, but usually end up talking about it later and then regretting it.


Donna

Thanks for your input, everyone.

I'm not trying to be hardheaded here.

Our first day, we are going to need to drive to Nashville. It's not going to be a big deal because we've done it before to see my sister-in-law. The trip really only takes us about 9 hours because we usually only stop once (somewhere in the NC mountains, near the TN border) to stretch our legs, fill up and grab something fast to eat. Plus, we do gain an hour due to the time change. I'll drive the first half, and he'll drive the second. The drive is familiar, and we'll be beating Raleigh rush hour, so we should be fine.

Packing the car the night before and leaving bright and early in the morning is not a problem. If we leave at 5:00am, we should get there at 2:00 in the afternoon Nashville time...that gives us 10 hours (with the time change), so we have an hour of leeway. That should give us time to see things...we've been to Nashville multiple times, so we don't need a "lot" of time to sightsee.

After that, I'm open for suggestions. If we added an extra day, we would spend 3 nights in-between Nashville and Las Vegas. Which three cities along I-40 should be choose?

Oh yes, and we can possibly add 2 more days to our return home...leave Vegas one day early so we can stop somewhere in Utah in-between Vegas and Denver, and then add another day in on the way home from Denver so that we can spend three nights between Denver and home...

Does that sound better?

If you did not want to do any sightseeing, you could drive from Nashville to LV in 3 long days. It's almost exactly 600 miles a day. However, the ideal overnights are in places with limited lodging - Henryetta OK and Moriarty NM. Stretching it out to part of a 4th day would let you stay the night in Fort Smith AR, Amarillo TX, and Holbrook AZ, all of which have ample lodging choices and will get you into Las Vegas midday. Using up the whole 4th day would allow for limited sightseeing, choose carefully.

LV to Denver is a 1.5 day drive via fastest route - I-15 and I-70. The halfway point would be Moab or Green River, possibly Grand Junction. You don't really have time to see too much of Utah or Colorado, choose diversions carefully.

Denver to Goldsboro can be done in 3 long days, overnights in Topeka/KC and Louisville/Lexington, so a 4th day would allow for some sightseeing.

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Originally Posted by glc

If you did not want to do any sightseeing, you could drive from Nashville to LV in 3 long days. It's almost exactly 600 miles a day. However, the ideal overnights are in places with limited lodging - Henryetta OK and Moriarty NM. Stretching it out to part of a 4th day would let you stay the night in Fort Smith AR, Amarillo TX, and Holbrook AZ, all of which have ample lodging choices and will get you into Las Vegas midday. Using up the whole 4th day would allow for limited sightseeing, choose carefully.

LV to Denver is a 1.5 day drive via fastest route - I-15 and I-70. The halfway point would be Moab or Green River, possibly Grand Junction. You don't really have time to see too much of Utah or Colorado, choose diversions carefully.

Denver to Goldsboro can be done in 3 long days, overnights in Topeka/KC and Louisville/Lexington, so a 4th day would allow for some sightseeing.

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Thanks for the response!

It is okay for us to get to Vegas later in the day/early evening on the 8th. Even with the change of plans, we'll be staying for 7 nights, so it'll be fine. So really, it would be a total of five driving days, with four overnights -- one in Nashville, then three in....?

I was also thinking Nashville to Fort Smith to Amarillo. Thanks for the suggestion about Holbrook AZ. I was wondering about the last day.

It's just the two of us, and we tend to "see" things fast. We were fine with spending about an hour at the Grand Canyon when we saw it, for example. We're also the ones who eat and run at restaurants, so maybe we're rushing through life...who knows. :P We don't have to stop and see EVERYTHING...but there are some things we didn't see on our last crazy trip that I'd like to stop for this time..

I'm thinking that leaving here on the 4th, leaving Nashville sometime before noon on the 5th, spending a night in Fort Smith on the 5th, then Amarillo on the 6th, then Holbrook on the 7th, then Las Vegas in the evening would probably be about our speed.

On our FIRST cross-country trip, we actually spent almost a whole day with a friend in Utah and saw lots of Colorado, so I'm not necessarily worried about sight-seeing from LV to Denver. The beautiful mountain views (of which I took literally HUNDREDS of pics last time while hubby drove) are enough for me. I so want to make it from LV to Denver in one day, but realistically, it's probably not a good idea. We probably will need to stop somewhere lame in Utah half-way.

You may want to spend the night in Holbrook in the Wigwam Motel.

Between LV and Denver, your best selection and most reasonably priced hotels will be in Grand Junction, not anywhere in Utah.

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Originally Posted by glc

You may want to spend the night in Holbrook in the Wigwam Motel.

Between LV and Denver, your best selection and most reasonably priced hotels will be in Grand Junction, not anywhere in Utah.

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Oh wow, that place in Holbrook looks awesome! Thank you!

Hubby really wants to drive straight from LV to Denver. He just keeps saying that there is nowhere worth staying in-between. I'm going to keep working on him.

LV to Denver is 750 miles. Don't even try it. You will be driving through the mountains in CO after dark and if the weather is bad that's the last thing you want to be doing, been there done that. It's just over 500 miles from LV to Grand Junction, and that's as far as you should attempt to go.

That's what I'm thinking. I think it will be a rough drive because of the weather especially.

Okay, is this better? I know y'all don't like the Goldsboro to Nashville drive, but we've done it several times before, so I know we'll be fine. Every other day is 500 miles(ish) or less. Plus, we are staying two nights in Nashville, so that will give us time to see things, spend time with my sister-in-law and rest a little bit.

Leave on December 3rd
Leave Goldsboro, NC
Arrive in Nashville, TN
(592 miles)
Stay in Nashville, TN on December 3rd and December 4th

December 5th
Leave Nashville, TN
Drive to Fort Smith, AR
(498 miles)

December 6th
Leave Fort Smith, AR
Drive to Amarillo, TX
(441 miles)

December 7th
Leave Amarillo, TX
Arrive in Holbrook, AZ
(518 miles)

December 8th
Leave Holbrook, AZ
Arrive in Las Vegas, NV
(340 miles)
Stay in Vegas December 8th - 15th

December 15th
Leave Las Vegas, NV
Arrive in Green River, UT
(406 miles)

December 16th & 17th
Leave Green River, UT
Arrive in Denver, CO
(343 miles)

December 18th
Leave Denver, CO
Drive to Salina, KS
(434 miles)

December 19th
Leave Salina, KS
Drive to St. Louis, MO
(423 miles)

December 20th
Leave St. Louis, MO
Drive to Louisville, KY
(261 miles)

December 21st
Leave Louisville, KY
Drive to Prosperity, WV
(303 miles)

December 22nd
Leave Prosperity, WV
Drive HOME (Goldsboro, NC)
(321 miles)

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Originally Posted by lmking1224

Okay, is this better? I know y'all don't like the Goldsboro to Nashville drive, but we've done it several times before, so I know we'll be fine.

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Um, I don't think anyone ever said that Goldsboro to Nashville alone was the problem. At 600 miles, that's a very full day on the road, but by itself, that's a safe and sustainable pace.

It was make the 600 mile drive in the morning, explore the city in the afternoon, and then follow it up on the next day with a late breakfast before heading out on a 700+ mile drive that raised the red flags.

Your current plan is a much more relaxed pace that will leave you quite a bit of time for exploration along the way.

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Originally Posted by Midwest Michael

Um, I don't think anyone ever said that Goldsboro to Nashville alone was the problem. At 600 miles, that's a very full day on the road, but by itself, that's a safe and sustainable pace.

It was make the 600 mile drive in the morning, explore the city in the afternoon, and then follow it up on the next day with a late breakfast before heading out on a 700+ mile drive that raised the red flags.

Your current plan is a much more relaxed pace that will leave you quite a bit of time for exploration along the way.

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Oh, I hope I didn't come across the wrong way when I said that. I wasn't being rude or anything...well, I wasn't trying to be. I just know everyone recommended no more than 500 miles. I appreciate all of the feedback that I've been getting. I want this trip to be perfect. I don't want to be exhausted, and I want us to be able to see things and have a good time.

The only suggestion I would make is to check out Green River before you decide to stay there. It's a tiny little town with limited lodging choices and very few restaurants. As I said before, Grand Junction is a better bet and it's still well within a day's drive from LV.

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Originally Posted by glc

The only suggestion I would make is to check out Green River before you decide to stay there. It's a tiny little town with limited lodging choices and very few restaurants. As I said before, Grand Junction is a better bet and it's still well within a day's drive from LV.

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The only reason I chose Green River is because it seemed like a better halfway point between Vegas and Denver, mile-wise. It's going to be cold, but I thought we might check out the national park that is there. There is a Holiday Inn and a few lower-end motels. I'll talk to hubby about Green River vs. Grand Junction. Thanks!

My husband and I have driven through Green River UT many, many times. Many is the time we've eaten breakfast there, having spent the night in Richfield, UT. GLC is right: there are few choices for motels and restaurants there. Yes, there is a Best Western there, as well as a Comfort Inn, Motel 6, Super 8, and a few others. Most are not right on the interstate, but in town off of Exit 184. As far as food is concerned, we usually eat at the Westwinds Truck Stop. There are a couple of cafes there, plus a Subway and an Arby's.

Arches National Park is about 35 miles from Green River, down US-191. Frankly, it takes at least 6 full hours to really SEE Arches, which you probably won't have if you're coming out of Las Vegas that morning.



Donna

As Donna mentioned Arches is a big place and just a drive through the park and back would add well over 3 hours to your drive the next day, plus sight seeing. If you continued to Fruita, a little nearer than Grand junction, then you could do an early morning drive around the rim of Colorado National Monument which is a pretty neat detour. You might even be able to drive over the Continental divide at Loveland pass just a short detour off I70 near Dillon. If you are set on visiting Arches, then you really need to get to Moab from Vegas and enter the park early next day and then exit to I70 taking UT128 through Castle valley which is a lovely little drive along the river and through a canyon.

Perhaps you shouldn't reserve a room and just see how far you get on a given day without over extending yourselves. [It's easy to get tempted to push further but then feel exhausted next day] If you stick to your plan of keeping the miles limited and evened out with a little 'wiggle' room it might work better. The weather could play it's part as well, it could be slow going and cause delays one day in the event of a storm one day and on another you could see calm with blue sky. You might get on the road a little earlier one day than another.

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If you are set on visiting Arches, then you really need to get to Moab from Vegas and enter the park early next day and then exit to I70 taking UT128 through Castle valley which is a lovely little drive along the river and through a canyon.

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I like this idea!

See...I like this forum a lot...you guys are so helpful!

I do like the idea of just going with looser plans, too...

Okay, I know y'all are probably tired of hearing about this trip, but I decided to tweak it one more time. I decided to take one MORE day away from Vegas...I didn't necessarily want to do it, but I think it will make things better on the way out so that we can see more things. This is my finalized itinerary (I think).

Leave on December 3rd
Leave Goldsboro, NC
Arrive in Nashville, TN (592 miles)

Stay in Nashville, TN on December 3rd and December 4th

December 5th
Leave Nashville, TN
Drive to Little Rock, AR
(349 miles)

December 6th
Leave Little Rock, AR
Drive to Oklahoma City, OK
(339 miles)

December 7th
Leave OKC
Arrive in Santa Rosa, NM
(426 miles)

December 8th
Leave Santa Rosa, NM
Arrive in Holbrook, AZ
(348 miles)

December 9th
Leave Holbrook, AZ
Arrive in Las Vegas, NV
(340 miles)

Stay in Vegas December 9th - 15th

December 15th
Leave Las Vegas, NV
Arrive in Moab, UT
(458 miles)
(Chose this so we can see the Arches the following morning)

December 16th & 17th
Leave Moab, UT
Arrive in Denver, CO
(354 miles)

December 18th
Leave Denver, CO
Drive to Salina, KS
(434 miles)

December 19th
Leave Salina, KS
Drive to St. Louis, MO
(423 miles)

December 20th
Leave St. Louis, MO
Drive to Louisville, KY
(261 miles)

December 21st Leave Louisville, KY
Drive to Prosperity, WV
(303 miles)

December 22nd Leave Prosperity, WV
Drive HOME (Goldsboro, NC)
(321 miles)

By the way...

We decided to add a little time on the way there so we can stop and see a few things in Memphis, OKC, Albuquerque...

We chose Moab (from Vegas) because we want to see the Arches the following morning on the way to Denver.

We chose a relatively short trip from St. Louis to Louisville because hubby wants to see the Louisville Slugger thing, and I want to see the horse stuff in Lexington. Since Louisville and Lexington are relatively close, I think we'll be able to do it all between arriving fairly early in the day in Louisville and leaving out of Louisville the next morning.

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Okay, I know y'all are probably tired of hearing about this trip,

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We never get tired of talking trips, it's what keeps us sane when not on the road ourselves ! Hope you have a great trip and drop by and update us with your experiences of the trip !

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Originally Posted by Southwest Dave

We never get tired of talking trips, it's what keeps us sane when not on the road ourselves ! Hope you have a great trip and drop by and update us with your experiences of the trip !

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Thanks! I will!!