WI to CA travel with 2yr old

Hey all,
First off, I am completely new to this forum so sorry if there is a better place for these questions. Also, I know there is probably threads out there with similar questions, but my head is swimming with research so I thought I would just ask for help here. My husband and I are moving from Wisconsin to California at the end of August and we are traveling with our going to be 21 months old daughter. We have never done a travel like this with her and could use all the advice we can get. First off, I was thinking that since she is not use to long car rides we would take the trip slow and do 4 hotel stays (bringing us to just under 7hrs a day in the car) and take time to take advantage of hotel pools and such to burn off her energy. Is that a good call or do you think it would be better to push it a little more and get there faster? Neither my husband or myself is comfortable driving at night while she sleeps since we don't know the route well and I am unsure of how well she would sleep in the car anyway. We are planning on having her sleep for naps in the car though. Also, what can I do to keep her occupied? We have a LeapPad and we are also planning on getting movies on my husband's iPad for her and picking up a etch-a-sketch type toy too, but at this point all these things only keep her attention for a short time; however, I know in just under 4 months she will be much different developmentally so I have no idea how to start planing. Also, any other tips any of you think to mention would be greatly appreciated as I am a bit nervous about this move. Thanks so much in advance!

Family road trips are the best!

Here are some tips to begin to think about:

General Family Trip Planning

Roadtripping with a baby

These games are a bit beyond a 2-year old -- but a good list to think about.

It's going to be fun!

Mark

Gramma of 2 chiming here with some ideas- we traveled with a 5 month old and a 16 month old last summer.

First, you'd be surprised at how much a 2-year old can handle. Stop a lot along the way and let her run. She can do this if you stop at a park, in McDonald's playground, or someplace like that. Do this every few hours. She may nap -- my granddaughter napped a lot on our trip.

Recordings and us singing kept the kids entertained across the country many times. Back when our kids would travel, they had favorite tapes, but today we would use CD's or the mp3 player. When we traveled last summer with our daughters and their children, we SANG. It's good entertainment for the kids, they were listening, and you know, now my 26-month old granddaughter can sing 3 verses of Mary Had a Little Lamb and on pitch!

If you are good at telling stories, those are also entertaining. If you have books on CD for kids, those can be helpful too.

We had a small tote bag of toys, way back when, and last summer. These are individual toys like small stuffed animals, plastic animals, the LeapPad (these days; ours was a See-n-Say). I would dole these out one at a time, and we'd clean up the back of the seat at each rest area to retrieve those that had fallen down.

Even at 2, children often like either a playground or a motel at the motel. But they can be just as happy with the TV. If you have a laptop, you could bring a favorite video or two.


Donna

Welcome to the RTA Forum!

5 days to make this trip should work out quite nicely for you. I'm of the opinion that more time is never a bad thing on a roadtrip. You didn't say exactly where your starting and ending points are, but keep in mind that online mapping programs are usually very optimistic, so if that's where you are getting your 7 hour a day estimate, you really could be looking at more like 8-9 hours a day.

You are smart not to try to drive through the night, as all that would mean is that you'd be exhausted while your child is wide awake. You are correct that most kids will use the on the road time to get in some extra naps too.

I'm a big believer in putting pretty strict limits on the amount of screen time a kid has during a roadtrip. One of the best things you can do during the day is stop frequently. They don't have to be elaborate stops, even pulling off into a city park to spend 30 minutes at a playground is a great way to help add some fun to the day - and bring that next nap on a little sooner! I'd also recommend spending a little time in the back seat, so you can play with her, read, and interact with her while you're heading down the road.

Otherwise, relax! This should be a great trip for you and your family, enjoy it!

Thank you all for your advice and especially your encouragement! Everything I have seen when researching this trip is basically "how to survive traveling with your kid." You all are the first I have seen to be positive about the travel part so thank you!

Most of the regular contributors here got our start in RoadTripping before we could drive, and in some cases before we could walk. In my own case, my family routinely traveled every other summer from the east coast to visit our extended family in Wisconsin. Those trips are some of the fondest memories of my childhood and were instrumental in my continuing to make numerous extended RoadTrips up to and including my current trips in retirement with my own grandchildren. The one bad memory I have from these trips is once when my oldest sister insisted we keep all the car windows closed (this was before auto air conditioning) and not stop to get out of the car because she had just had her hair done for the trip. That lasted about four hours before the rest of us (5 others) were in open revolt.

I will echo what others have said here. If you are getting your time estimates from a computer-based algorithm, add about 20% to those times 5 hours in the computer is 6 hours in the real world, 7 is 8½-9. Stops don't have to be long or elaborate, but they should be relatively often, say every 2-3 hours. There are ample opportunities for such stops all along the major Interstates.

Four days is about the lower limit of what you can do this trip in. Green Bay to San Francisco clocks in at around 2200 miles, most WI to CA drives are a bit shorter. That means 525-550 miles a day, so keep that in mind as your traveling. Watch your odometer and if you fall behind that pace, you'll have to think about adding a day or at least part of one to the driving portion of the trip. You can also use that daily driving criterion to figure out where you should be at the end of each day and find child-friendly, suitable, and economical accommodations before you leave and pre-book. This will save you the hassle of trying to find a place at the end of each day.

If done right (and you seem to be doing just that) this will not be an ordeal to be survived but a chance to enjoy some fun time(s) with your toddler at the start of her own discovery of how much fun travel can be.

AZBuck

Just chiming in with the same message. Planned well, this will be a memorable trip, and, who knows, the first of many. Those who look on such trips as something to endure, rather than enjoy, have probably never learned how to enjoy a roadtrip.

When travelling with our children we always made a point of being on the road early, and tried get more than half the distance covered before lunch. We found our children were always more settled during the morning than later in the day.

Arriving at your hotel well before bedtime, is also a good idea, to allow your daughter to familiarise herself with her new surroundings.

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You all are the first I have seen to be positive about the travel part so thank you!

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How could we be anything other than positive about a well planned roadtrip?

Lifey

Oh wow, thank you again you guys! I am actually getting a little excited about the trip now :)
We are going from the Denmark, WI area (about 1/2hour from Green Bay) to Redding. From what I am seeing it is 2,208 mi. In all my nervousness I guess I did not think much about the additional time it would take over what the map sites are giving me, thanks for the reminder. Also, to those of you who traveled from Midwest to the coast, is there any super long roads where there is nothing? Like should I be watching out at some point for things like "200mi to the next gas station"? Know it might sound stupid since I am only asking from seeing that stuff on tv and not my own experience but its something that crept into my mind. Thanks for helping me with all me newbie questions, I would not be so concerned if not for the little one...

Alternative view on the sleeping issue....

Road Trips for kids should produce happy memories -- it's not a job. When time is tight, what I suggest is to travel later in the early evening -- A couple of hours past dinner at least. Then a nice restful sleep in the motel with the idea towards sleeping in a bit (good for adult drivers) and time for a quick period of play in the pool before packing for another day.

For some odd reason, the link to roadtripping with a baby is not loading well, so I've copied Anne's Top 10 Tips here: (It mentions some precautions for traveling in a RV -- Anne's vehicle of choice, but the tips work for other vehicles too). If you can get the link to load -- there are some cute photos!

Baby on Board: 10 Tips for Road Trips with the Baby
by Anne Sponholtz

A baby in the back seat does not mean that your road trips are now limited to visits to the grocery store and the pediatrician. As a mom, grandma and experienced road tripper, Anne Sponholtz has earned a diploma in "Traveling with Baby 101." She offers a few tips that can help make your road trips with baby memorable in all the right ways. Parents, you may start your engines.

When my youngest was 6 months old, my husband and I decided it was time to take off on a 379-mile road trip to Key West, Fla. Friends and family shuddered at the idea of such a venture with a baby, but we were road trippers, and hitting the road was part of our life. Since then the odometer has ticked off plenty of miles with babies on board. Sometimes it gets crazy, but it's always an adventure.

Here are 10 tips to smooth the way.

1. Be flexible

When baby is on board, you never know what is in store for your travels. Sometimes baby is happy, other times fussy, and being prepared to swing with baby's moods can make traveling a lot easier on everyone. So don't be too ambitious and don't set your travel plans in stone. Be as flexible as you can and expect to stop often. My daughter and I figured a 90-mile trip with one of my youngest grandsons would be a breeze, but on the trip out, the baby was fussy and we had to keep stopping to pacify him. It seemed to take forever to get to our destination, but on the return trip, baby was perfect, and we made it home in record time.

2. Keep a list

Ellen Damaschino, a professional organizer featured on Parents TV, advises making a master packing list you can use for all your trips. Tuck it away in the baby's travel bag, preferably one with lots of pockets, so you can check off the things you will need on your return trip home. A master list might include such things as diapers, wipes, lotion, changing pads, garbage bags, formula - if you are not nursing - and juice, water, snacks, baby food and utensils, if baby is a little older. If baby is on any medication, include that on the list. Pack a first aid kit, and don't forget a thermometer, flashlight and your insurance cards. A small cooler to keep juice and formula cold should make the list. Use travel-sized items for packing. As Damaschino suggests, pack for travel time, not for the trip. You can make purchases once you arrive at your destination.

3. Provide entertainment

Entertainment can be the key to keeping baby happy. Bring along baby's favorite toys, a soothing music CD and a few new toys. Hanging mobiles from the car ceiling is a good idea so long as they don't obstruct your view out the windows. Blowing bubbles can entertain baby for a long time and is a popular form of entertainment among traveling parents. Just don't distract the driver! It's always a good idea to travel with a designated "baby entertainer" who can move into the back seat when baby gets fussy. Older siblings are often good candidates for this job.

4. Check the weather

If you have a choice of travel days, try to avoid rain and other bad weather. Some of the toughest trips I've made with babies have been in the rain, as getting out for pit stops in bad weather with a baby is difficult. Our RV has a built-in weather radio, but you can also check forecasts on several online weather services (see listing at the end of this article). RVs are great for bad-weather travel, as you can stop and get the baby out of his car seat for a while without having to get out into the elements; car drivers will have to plan rest stops at places where they can get everyone under shelter.

5. Keep baby comfortable

Keeping baby happy in her car seat can cut down on some of the stops. Window shades are a great help, providing some shade when the sun is coming in the car window. Small pillows and blankets strategically placed in car seats can provide comfort for baby, but keep an eye on baby to make sure they don't shift and interfere with her breathing. Changing baby's position in the seat is also helpful. Don't give infants too much orange juice. According to staff members at the Family Travel Forum, orange juice causes some babies to become carsick.

6. Consider the larger items

Strollers, carriers, pack-'n-plays, high chairs - oh my. The list of larger items needed for a baby just seems to go on and on, and it can be daunting when planning a road trip. But don't get discouraged. These days there are lots of options. If you are going to be in one place for a while, you can ship these items ahead; you can also rent many of them when you get there. Some larger items are now built like the popular children's toy - Transformers. For example, you can purchase a car seat that converts to an infant carrier and transforms into a stroller. RV travelers have the luxury of space. We once packed a full-sized high chair for a trip that included a grandson's first birthday. It was a great help keeping the birthday cake all over baby, instead of all over the RV!

7. Travel safe

Even if you think you know how to install a car seat properly, it's best to check with an expert. Local police and firefighters will often do this for you. And once baby is strapped into that car seat and the engine is running, never unbuckle him without stopping first. (RVers often have heated online debates over this issue, with some saying it is OK to let infants and babies out of their car seats in an RV. I fall on the side of always stopping before anyone unbuckles in my car or RV.) If you're traveling in an RV, check to see whether you will need to secure the car seat with a lap belt. One RoadTrip America Forum contributor had to purchase a new car seat, compatible with a lap belt, when he rented an RV that had this arrangement. You can check online for individual state laws covering age and weight requirements for children's car seats (the website is listed in the sidebar).

If traveling in an RV, be sure to baby-proof it as you would your home, e.g. covering electrical outlets and keeping such things as the chemicals used for the holding tanks out of baby's reach. Above all, never leave a baby or any young child alone in any vehicle. You would never forgive yourself if something terrible happened while you "just stepped outside for a moment."

8. Get some exercise

Keep a lookout on your GPS for places like playgrounds or city parks where baby can get a little exercise, fresh air and a change of scenery. We stopped for lunch one day in the RV and even the littlest grandson enjoyed watching a squirrel play right outside our door. Swings at playgrounds are also excellent ways to give baby some exercise, and an old-fashioned picnic on a blanket provides baby a break from traveling and a chance to move around without being so confined.

9. Think about when to travel

Many parents prefer traveling at night, when the kids are asleep. I don't think my sister and her family ever took a trip that her kids didn't travel in their pajamas. As a youngster, whenever my family traveled we got up at 5 a.m., traveled several hours, stopped for breakfast and then hit the road again. Some experienced travelers, however, say it is best to keep baby on her regular schedule. That is the way I prefer to travel with baby, and it seems to work pretty well most of the time. Remember Rule No. 1: Be flexible. If you experiment with different timetables, you will find what fits your family's needs.

10. Say "Cheese!"

Don't forget your camera! I recently ran across a picture taken when we went on that Key West trip long ago, when my daughter was just 6 months old. My kids were more than a little surprised to discover there was a time their mother did not wear a one-piece bathing suit!

Most importantly, relax and have fun. Babies grow up way too fast and before you know it, you will be searching for tips on how to travel with teenagers.

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Originally Posted by Cal12

I am actually getting a little excited about the trip now :)

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Good to read.

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Originally Posted by Cal12

Like should I be watching out at some point for things like "200mi to the next gas station"?

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There are very few places in the US where you can go 50 miles without being able to get fuel. I-70 in UT is one such place, a couple of minor roads in NV similarly have few outlets. But on the whole, you see fuel every few miles. Don't let your tank go below quarter full.

Lifey

I'll chime in here about the gasoline situation. Normally, there are services every few miles on the freeways. Yes, they always tell you, "Next services, 35 miles", if that's the case. The longest place I can think of without services is between Green River, UT and Salina, UT, which is 108 miles. There are signs before Green River (heading west) and before Salina (heading east), to warn you.

My hubby and I always try to look for fuel when we get to about 1/2 tank. That way, if we need to wait until we're 1/4 tank down, we have a little leeway. We use several methods, most recently our gasbuddy app, to find nearby reasonable fuel. But I also use gasbuddy on our laptop, each night before, to get a good idea of where we can find decent priced fuel. (I dislike getting fuel one place, 20 gallons worth, and then find it 15c less per gallon 20 miles down the road!)


Donna

Thanks again everyone! You out my mind to ease more than I can express. Also, never heard of the gasbuddy app, I'll have to look into that!

Hello everyone,
I am new to this forum and had one previous thread that this community helped me with and you are all so encouraging, so here is another green horn question for everyone! My husband and I are moving from the Green Bay, WI area to Redding, CA at the end of August for a year for my husband's job. I will have a little one with us and need some advice on packing. First, I want to have some snacks for my kid and I need some Almond Milk since she does not deal with dairy well and finding that is harder than just stopping at gas stations and getting regular cow's milk. There are smaller containers of that which do not have to be refrigerated, and also other snacks (like apples, fruit sippers that come in a pouch, ect) that don't need refrigeration; however, not needing to stay cold and being ok in a hot car while we let my daughter run around ect. is different so I figure we might need a cooler. We have limited room and a cooler seems obnoxious to keep up with, plus would we just need to keep buying ice as we go to fill it? Any other easier ideas?
Also, on the limited space issue: what do you suggest as something we could use for extra storage? We will be using a Ford Expedition. Renting a trailer for both moving there and moving back after the year is over seems as expensive as just buying something (not to mention I have NEVER driven with a trailer) and when we get to our destination it adds another step in having to return it then rent one again before we leave. A good hard top luggage carrier seems very expensive. I saw some soft case luggage carriers that go on a platform on the back of the truck with seem like they would work, but I have no experience with any of these options. Thanks is advance for your help and advice :)

Moderator Note: Please keep all questions about this trip in the same thread.

I can't really answer the question regarding the platforms for the back of a truck or the soft-sided rooftop carriers, as our experience was with a hard-top roof carrier YEARS ago in the early 80s. But about the ice situation...

A couple of dollars a day for ice to keep your snacks and drinks cold isn't that big of an expense on a shorter trip. (It adds up if you were talking about a trip longer than a month.) Why not get the smallest cooler (which can be filled discreetly at the motel) and keep only the day's supply of the Almond Milk needed, and a few snacks, cold? Also, every larger town or any city should have a grocery store close to the freeway or to your motel. When we need a grocery store that's larger than a convenience store, we ask at the motel, where is the nearest supermarket or grocery store? I find it an adventure to shop at the local stores when I only need a few things. It's almost a disappointment to find a Super Wal-Mart or Super Target, as "they all look alike!" with the exception of the lower prices that I know to expect.

You're brave, to move that far for only a year. Even our military moves left us in one place for 2 years minimum.


Donna

Another app to get: hotels.com. VERY handy when you're looking for cheap digs for overnight. My husband has it for Android -- and when he upgrades to an iPhone, we'll get that and gasbuddy again. (I think I'm getting his old phone so that he can continue playing his game. I have a dumb phone now.)


Donna

I have a small cooler that I think would work well, thanks for the tips about the motel ice (I had forgotten about that fact). I know I am asking some silly questions, I am just stressed and wanting to make sure I am not missing something that could make things go smoother. Gasbuddy and hotels.com are now loading on my phone!
Sorry about posting in a different thread, I thought perhaps I was getting too off topic from my original question and making a new thread would make it easier. Thanks for the correction.

If it is only for a year, why not leave your stuff in storage and get some cheap stuff to see you through the year. You could easily utilise something like Craigslist or Goodwill stores. You'd probably spend as much as you would with the trailer etc., without all the hassle.

Although we never had to make a large move, even when we went camping for two or three weeks with our five children we never carried anything on top of or at the back of our VW Microbus (commonly called a Kombi). Tents, tarps, ropes etc was all packed under the seats. The rest was packed behind the back seat on top of the engine, secured with a net so it could not become missiles in a mishap. What did not fit, did not come.

Lifey

My daughter and her husband and their three children make regular international trips. One thing she does to prepare the children, now aged 8, 5 and 3, is with books and stories. She goes to the library and gets out book from the children's section, which deal with travel and with the places they plan to visit or the the things they plan to do. Even about the 14 hour plus flight.

These then become bedtime reading for months leading up to the departure. Even the youngest talks excitedly and with anticipation of the trip. Story time at home is handled likewise, with stories the parents have read or heard. I am sure you will find your daughter would be interested in age appropriate information about the forthcoming trip.

Lifey

There's an ongoing discussion about using ice or not on road trips -- that you might find helpful -- Personally, I've not used ice in over a decade -- but more on the topic here.

Of more importance -- here is a great, quick-reading article about what to put in your cooler when on road trips.... (contributed by Dennis Weaver).

And a general list of cooler tips contributed by Sofia Romano.

Mark

I found this when perusing articles....
Car Top/Back Carriers article.

I had forgotten it existed on this website.


Donna

Hey you have all been so helpful. I have one last question for you. What sites have you found to give you the best prices for hotels? I have the hotel.com app (which was VERY useful to find hotels that had what I wanted in the cities I needed them) and so far it always ends up with Days Inn. I was wondering if I should check them against somewhere else? Random searches gives me a lot of options, so where is your go to?

I actually don't use the hotels.com app, although I don't have anything against it.

You can certainly start by comparing hotel prices right here, just look on the right side of the screen, or the "hotels and cars" link at the top of the page. (Buying through here would be a nice thank you for the free advice, hint, hint!)

Other things I use: Kayak is a great starting point, which will search across multiple sites, including hotels.com. I also check out the "blind booking" sites like Priceline and Hotwire, which can get you a great price, but at the risk of not knowing exactly where you'll end up. Also check out the coupon books you'll find at many rest areas and truck stops, which provide good deals if you're looking to show up at a place without making reservations.

Frankly, I only ever use the coupon books found at interstates. Have always found they give me the best rates for where I am and what I want.

Lifey

FWIW I'd say try Motel 6 for one night. I've used them on numerous occasions and never had any cause for complaint but if you don't like it, then next time try something at the next price level up, say Super 8. If you're still not happy, move up again.

But opinions on this subject vary considerably and have an unfortunate tendency to become emotive, so if you've found an accommodation solution that you're happy with then I'm not trying to persuade you to change.

I wouldn't stay at a Motel 6 without reading some reviews first - I use Tripadvisor. Some of them are quite decent but some of them are real dumps.

I have stayed at the one in Holbrook, AZ and was very happy. The one here in Joplin is a dump, it attracts less than desirable clientele. It's noisy, lowlifes tend to hang around it, there's drug dealing, and there was even a shooting last year.

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You can certainly start by comparing hotel prices right here, just look on the right side of the screen, or the "hotels and cars" link at the top of the page. (Buying through here would be a nice thank you for the free advice, hint, hint!)

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Wow, I'm blind! Can ya tell I have been over thinking and being overly nervous about this trip! LOL Thank you all!