Hello!!!
Road trip newbie here! My husband and I are considering a trip from Wisconsin to Yellowstone and back this summer. We will have only 7 days to complete the trip. Should we even attempt it? Thanks in advance for the words of wisdom!
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Hello!!!
Road trip newbie here! My husband and I are considering a trip from Wisconsin to Yellowstone and back this summer. We will have only 7 days to complete the trip. Should we even attempt it? Thanks in advance for the words of wisdom!
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It depends somewhat from where in Wisconsin you will be starting from, as it can be 2 or 3 days of travel each way. Two days isn't bad since that would give you 3 days to spend exploring the park. You would have to stick to the straight route, however, so you wouldn't have much time to explore during the journey out or back.
Thanks for the reply. We are in the Northeast portion of Wisconsin. It takes about 4 1/2 - 5 hours to get to Minneapolis.
What would be considered the "straight route"?
Thanks!!
From Green Bay to Yellowstone, there are two nearly equal 'straight routes', I-90 through southern Minnesota and South Dakota, and I-94 through central Minnesota and North Dakota. There is only a few miles difference between taking those two routes, so it's a perfect excuse to take one out and the other back. However, at over 1300 miles this is not a two day drive. If you want to stop at some of the sights between you and Yellowstone, it would be closer to three. Still, You would have a little more than a full day at Yellowstone as the highlight of your trip. I guess the thing I'm suggesting is that you slow down a bit on the drive and have as much fun as you can on that, the major portion of your trip time-wise, rather than just rush through it to have a few more hours at one (thoroughly amazing) place.
AZBuck
Thank You!!! I thought that we may have to make it a 10-day trip. Sounds like that may be the way to go to avoid crabby spouses!!! Thank you everyone for your advice!
A few hints for Yellowstone.
Get up early and stay up late. Visit the popular attractions before 10 AM or after dinner and you will avoid some of the mob scene.
During the middle of the day, take a hike. Most visitors to our National Parks don't make it more than 300 yards from the car.
Most people know about Old Faithful, but other spectacular geysers nearby such as Beehive that have predictable eruption times.
The ranger station near Old Faithful posts predictions for these geysers. I have even gone out at night and watched eruptions by moonlight.
10 days would be ideal - 3 days each way and 3 days in the park, with 1 day for contingencies.
The extra three days will serve you well. No need to feel rushed at all. Even if you have to drop back to nine days, you'll still be far better off than with only seven.Quote:
Originally Posted by jfogarty
Kestrel is right about taking a hike. We visited during the July 4th week, and there were but a few brave souls taking to the woods to visit nature. We found our own little geyser and a tucked away waterfall.
I know this is probably a very vague question but my husband and I just not scheduled travelers. We'd rather wing it and relax. That being said is lodging available along the way from Wisconsin to Yellowstone without a reservation, or is that a bad idea? Thanks!
You should not have a problem finding walk-in hotel rooms at Interstate exits and in towns along secondary highways unless there is a special event going on in the area or it's high season in a popular tourist area. I very seldom make reservations when I travel and I rarely have problems finding a place to stay. I might have to pay a bit more than I want but that doesn't really bother me much. The earlier you come in off the road, the better the selection will be. What you might want to do is visit hotels in several chains before you go and pick up directories. That way you can call in when you have an idea about where you want to stop each day and find out if there are rooms available and inquire about rates. I have a Motel 6, Super 8, and Best Western directory in my truck.
Hi Everyone,
I've posted before regarding routes, etc. but decided that a roadtrip this year was out of our monetary range. I was budgeting $2,000 for two adults in a 2009 Honda Fit from Northeast WI to Yellowstone roundtrip. I've heard from a few folks that I'm estimating high. Is that true? Any ideas on how to accurately budget for a sizeable roadtrip?
Thanks in Advance!!
Jenny
For my own planning purposes, I generally figure out 'fixed costs' such as plane tickets, car rental, and fuel costs. I then budget about a hundred dollars a day for food and lodging, and that gives me a pretty good handle on the cost of the trip and whether I'll be able to afford it. For a more detailed breakdown of expenses and where you might be able to save, look through this post by Judy. Gas costs are, of course, a guesstimate, but you can at least use our Fuel Cost Calculator to do the repetitive math for you and figure out a range of possibilities.
AZBuck
I'd say you might be a little on the high side for a 10 day trip, however, it really depends upon your approach and how much you like to spend on your trips. If you eat at lots of restaurants and want to worry about doing what you want to do more than watching your wallet, then it would be easy to spend that much or more. On the flip side, you could certainly do it for less than that.
I would figure out a budget that works for you, but having $2000 available is never a bad place to start. If you don't use it all, you'll just have that much money available for your next trip.
Well, I *JUST* did from Seattle to Madison and back in 10 days, and since Wisconsin to Yellowstone is a pretty comparable distance (more or less), you should have no problems at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by jfogarty
Having just done it, I fully endorse Highway 14. It's a pretty trip going thataway and it's not all that much slower than doing I-90.
While I don't know about staying in and around Yellowstone (the crowds might be an all different beast there), but I tend not to book hotels ahead of time on my roadtrips, and as a rule, I'm free and clear. This last trip I ran headlong into a rodeo, causing me an hour drive past where I wanted to stay for a new motel - but all other motels, I had no problem driving up and getting a room, even late in the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by jfogarty
Man, stay away from the big chains! If you want to save some cash on the trip, find the mom-n-pop motels. Most of my stays were in the 35-45 dollar range when I was staying at the smaller, non-chain motels. The two or three nights I had to stop at a chain? The cost of my lodging doubled to 60-80 bucks a night. My stay at the Sunshine motel in Wall was 95 bucks for two nights. My previous single night stay at the Super 8 in Huron? 85.99Quote:
Originally Posted by glc
If you HAVE do do chain, stay away from Super 8 and Motel 6. Those were consistently the worst priced motels I found. Econolodge was a bit more expensive than the non-chains, but not by a huge amount.
I don't think anybody is a bigger tightwad than me. I really research prices. I seldom find any place cheaper than a Motel 6, even mom-and-pop locations. Super 8 and Day's Inn are the other two chains that are usually in the same price range, sometimes a bit lower but usually just a tad higher. I have stayed in Econolodges only if the other three didn't have space or a motel in the location I needed because their prices have always been a bit higher. Go figure. Odd that we have such vastly different experiences.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony J Case, Super Genius
Anyway, those three tend to give me a room that is nothing fancy, but clean, for the lowest price. I rarely stay anywhere else if I'm using a hotel.
Man, I must have gotten the unlucky Motel 6 or something. I think my final bill was 65 or thereabouts - and that was before I got hit with the nickle-and-dime treatment for shampoo and internet. The Super 8 across the street was 80 bucks (at a "special rate", no less), so perhaps that area of Montana was just more expensive than the rest of the world?Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW Judy
Still, I'll prefer the mom-n-pop motels over The Big Chains just because I like giving my money to the local businesses. The Big Faceless Conglomerates can survive without my 50 bucks, but the little guy? Not so much. Besides, they always seem to have way more peronality and color than the Big Chains do.
I have had wonderful experiences in mom-and-pop's. Like the lady who brought my kids an Easter basket somewhere around Redding, don't recall exactly where, when we were traveling on that weekend. And the old guy manning the cabin-style hotel near Ruidisio NM who told me stories for an hour or so that were hysterical about growing up in the area (wish I'd written them down)...not to mention that the place was clean but the decor was straight out of the 1940s, seriously, it was a hoot. Not retro, just never redone.
But, before I learned to ask to see the room first, I've also stayed in mom-and-pops where the shower was so moldy I ended up bathing in the sink, in another that was wall-to-wall fleas, and in one where drug deals appeared to be happening in the parking lot, people had wild parties all night, and I think some of the rooms were rented by the hour. (And this was before I learned, from experiences of people in these forums, that truck stop overnights in your car are safe or I probably would have hit the road and stayed in one of those instead.)
You do have to be more careful with independent hotels, I think. Much more careful as there aren't standards set by a chain that the establishment has to meet to maintain their relationship with the chain. This is because most motels in the various chains, especially the more inexpensive ones, aren't corporate owned but are, rather, franchises. As such, they do often have local ownership and the money does stay in the local economy. You can't presume that most profits go to a head office somewhere as that isn't always the case. I have a friend who just bought a local hotel and fixed it up and it is now part of the Econolodge franchise, yet it has local ownership. Yes, some are corporate owned but not all.
Anyway, if you find a good mom-and-pop motel to stay in at a price you're willing to pay, go for it. I have nothing against them. I've just learned to check them out closer before plunking my money down for the room.
I should add, you can get a bad, dirty, or even dangerous chain hotel, too. I just don't think the odds are as common.
$65 Motel 6 and $80 Super 8 is not common except in resort areas in season and during special events. The Motel 6 in Moab is $49 in March and $99 in July.
I just checked my credit card, and it seems I was misremembering my numbers just a bit. Here's the breakdown, listed from cheapest to most expensive:
Mo Rest Motel, Mobridge - $43.20
Sunshine Inn, Wall - $47.52 (95.04 for both nights)
Econolodge, Lewiston - $49.90
Westgate Motel, Eau Claire - $50.63
Hoilday Motel, Prairie Du Chien - $54.15
Motel 6, Billings - $54.24
Comfort Inn, Huron - $75.59
Super 8 Motel, Big Timber - $84.75
So as a rule, the mom-n-pop places were cheaper overall - but not by as wide a margin as I was remembering. It's not until you get to the Comfort Inn and Super 8 where the price takes off like a rocket. I guess the Motel 6 only FELT expensive because in order to get shampoo and internet, it would have cost me another 8 bucks above and beyond the cost of the room.
Actually, that's probably pretty good advice for any room - do a bit of digging before setteling in. From my last trip, I had my AAA guidebooks close at hand and my laptop ready to check out the listings on tripadvisor.com. Between those two, plus my uncanny ability to pick up the general vibe of a motel, I've yet to go wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW Judy
Well, unless you count those four consecutive nights with the trains roaring past. But that could have happened to ANYONE! :)
Looks like you were a captive audience in Big Timber. My mapping program shows that the Super 8 is the only hotel in town and hotels.com doesn't show anything.
Googlemaps shows a handful of hotels so, really, not many to choose from. Prices are always higher when there's less options. Not enough competition to drive down costs.
Per Googlemaps, there are a lot more options just 35 miles west in Livingston.
For future reference, it can be worth it to toss a sleeping bag/pillow in your car even if you're not planning on camping because Tony could have rented a camping cabin at Big Timber's KOA for $46. Since they provide the bedframe/mattress, it would probably have been just as comfortable as a hotel for a significant savings.
I found a couple of motels on Tripadvisor well after the fact, but they're all about in the 80 buck range. It looks like the Super 8 were living large thanks to being the only game in town.Quote:
Originally Posted by glc
Unfortunatly, Big Timber was one of those "It's really late, all the motels in the target destination town are full, and it's the next closest thing" situations, and not my first choice of stop. It was about 9:30 when I rolled into Harlowton and found out there was no room at the inn, and 10:15 when I finally got to Big Timber and was hitting the "All I want is a soft pillow for my head. . . NOW" point - so yeah, they totally had me at their mercy.
Ah well, live and learn. After that night I made it a point to stop and find a motel just about as the sun was setting and not leave it till the last moment.
And upon reflection, I probably should have brought them. Thing is - when I took my road trip down to Four Corners last year, I did pack a blanket and pillow with me, with the intent of just sleeping by the side of the road (or wherever) as needed, but for some reason I didnt this time. I think it was because I didnt even bring them out of the car last time that I didnt think they were nessassary.Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW Judy
Goes to show you, I guess! Live and learn, live and learn. . . .
Tony, that's the only downside of winging it without a plan or reservations. Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and pay a lot more for a room than it's worth. I paid close to $80 for a room at the Super 8 in Kingman, AZ once because of that - but it was almost midnight, I was dog tired, and it was a Saturday night and something was going on in town. It was the very last room in the hotel. I had already been turned away by every hotel in Boulder City due to an activity in town, in hindsight I would have been better off backtracking to Vegas, but I wanted to get to the Grand Canyon as early as possible the next day.
Was the room worth $80? Hell no! It barely met my (quite low) standards but it served its purpose. Not one of the better Super 8's I've stayed in by a long shot. Place was full of partying drunks.