Can it really cost that much?!

Hi there.
My sweetie and I are living in Sweden, but getting married this November in Florida. We were thinking of doing a crosscountry drive, but only have about 3 weeks. Is this even possible?

We were thinking of doing a California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Florida route. Another option is flying out west and do a ring trip through California, Nevada, Utah, Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona?

Any idea if either of these can be done in 3 weeks and if so which is recommended and why?

Also, how much money should we calculate per day? We plan on staying in hotels and eating out- it will be our honeymoon- although not fancy.

Thanks for all of your help!

Welcome to the RTA forums and congratulations on your upcoming nuptials!

Both trips are do-able. However, doing either trip in 3 weeks means that you will have to balance driving and sightseeing. You won't be able to see it all.

Personaly, I would do the ring for a few reasons.
* It's some of the most amazing scenery in America.
* If you find that you've lingered too long in one area and that you're behind schedule, you can more easily change your plans and cut something out. If you have to get from Point A to Point B like you would on the coast-to-coast drive, your options for making any changes are far more limited.
* Car rentals cost a lot more when you pick up in one location and drop off at another. Same with airline flights.

If you're going to splurge on hotels and restaurant meals for your entire trip, you will probably want to budget, at minimum, $150/day. And that is low. I would budget closer to $250 and enjoy spending the excess if I'm coming in under budget on other fun stuff.

Hotels can be had for $40 to $250 night. The $40 hotels are usually clean but lack amenities and luxuries that you might want to enjoy while on a honeymoon. In non-touristy areas, you can probably find nicer lodging in the $70-100 range without any problem. But in the touristy areas near national parks, cities, major tourist attractions, the price might easily reach $150-200/night.

Restaurant meals vary. You could each eat 3 squares a day for about $30 if you stick to someplace like McDonald's. But how yucky would that be? If you want to feel good and stay healthy for the honeymoon, this would not be a good choice. At inexpensive family restaurants (chains like Denny's, Cracker Barrell, etc.), you could probably enjoy a meal together for about $20-30/meal without any problem. And then, of course, you could easily spend $100 at a more upscale restaurant. So, for food, planning for spending, at minimum, $60 per day at restaurants with some money in reserve for times you want to splurge on finer dining seems reasonable.

However, I would really encourage you to buy a cooler at any grocery store and fill it with healthy foods at grocery stores along your route. You might want to do this for these reasons:
* Cheaper and healthier
* Quicker....eating in restaurants 3 times a day really cuts into your time to drive and explore
* When you're driving a lot, eating 3 times a day in restaurants might make your clothes a bit tight by the time you return home. (American portions tend to be quite a big bigger than those in European restaurants. You might find that there are times when sharing a meal makes more sense than getting separate meals. You can always request an extra plate.)

There are lots of choices for eating out of a cooler. You can pick up very cheap plasticware with lids to store some food items to keep them fresher. Plastic utensils and paperplates are very cheap. So are coolers. One sharp knife won't cost much either. These are all you really need to eat cheap and healthy. Things to put in the cooler might include: cheese, fruit, veggies, salad makings, crackers, granola, granola bars, protein bars, bagels and cream cheese, and anything else you might like that doesn't require cooking. I don't know about Swedish grocery stores, but American grocery stores often have big deli sections where you can buy things that have been pre-prepped, like cleaned/chopped veggies, hard-boiled eggs, sliced meats for sandwiches, etc.

It's really nice to be able to have a beautiful park and or scenic viewpoint and enjoy the scenery without having to hop in the car and find a restaurant when your stomach starts growling.

Hope this helps. And come back with more questions so we can help you plan a sublime honeymoon!

wow. What a wonderful reply! Thanks!

I was initially thinking a cross country route would be cheaper. I have a car available for use in Florida. But then we run into the issue with time...

Any ideas about route planning or how much money we should figure on gas costs? I am trying to work out all of the financial details to see if this is even possible. Otherwise the option is Thailand or Egypt. And I really have my heart set on the states as my honey hasn't seen much of it.

We will be renting some sort of economy car- as long as it's comfy! I have no problems with bringing some meals along with us in the car! A great way to save some money and be able to spend a bit more on fun things! I also have no issues staying in motels, as long as they are clean ;).

Thanks a ton! :)

You could easily drive I-10 from California to Florida in 3 weeks, plus see alot of sights.

1.Straight driving with very minimal stops only when needed would take about 40-45 hours.
2.Now in 4-5 days you can make this trip with overnight stays and minimal sight seeing.
3.One week can make the trip and see some sights not to far out of the way.
4.In 3 weeks, you can see a whole lot and not be rushed.

That's a bit tougher to figure. First, you have to get an idea of how many miles your itinerary will be. Then pad it by a factor of at least 1.25....although I would probably use 1.5 just to be sure...for those incidental little trips off your route to hotels, campgrounds, restaurants, whatever.

Then you need to find out what kind of vehicle you will be renting and determine it's fuel consumption. You could probably just find the manufacturer's website for that car. But, remember that they are usually a bit more optimistic than the average driver experiences. Then use the Fuel Cost Estimator to determine your budget.

If you need to find the price of gas, you might check out Gas Buddy.

BTW, I do agree with azo that the cross-country roadtrip is do-able in the time you have....if it's a one-way trip. And if you don't criss-cross the country too much (north to south and north again) from your basic route. Too much of that could easily double the miles and the driving time needed. And I guess I'm just partial to the Southwest!!!

Also, if you do have to rent a car and you're on a budget, the drop-off fee might be a factor. You do mention having a car available in Florida. If you pick up a car there, go cross-country, and then have to get back to Florida to drop it off, you're really going to be rushed to get your trip done in time. A round-trip would be brutal in 3 weeks, in my opinion.

So, take all this into consideration and then plan your trip around the places you most want to see. You will definitely see more variety of scenery, people, architecture, lifestyles, you name it, if you do a cross-country trip. So it's definitely worth considering. Sorry if I might have given you another impression.

Hi,
I live in NJ and have done the cross country trip 6 times. I would choose the ring. The west offers many National Parks and scenic beauty. While the country has many beautiful sights, most of our trips were spent viewing the west. If National Parks are of interest to you, an annual pass may be purchased for $50.00. Since most parks charge between $10.00 ande $20.00, the pass is a bargain. In planning our trips, I researched each state and national park that we intended on visiting. Much of the info along with info I requested to be mailed to me was compiled in a binder for a day by day itinery. If you would like any additional help, please ask.

Hi there.
I posted a while back about planning a ring trip for my honeymoon. We live in Sweden currently, but will be married in my home town in Florida. It will be my husbands first trip to the western USA so I want to show off as much of my country as possible!

We have around 18 days or so and had planned on the following:
Las Vegas
Hoover Dam
Grand Canyon
Painted Desert
San Diego
up the coast to San Francisco
going through Yosemite, Sequoia and Death Valley
back to Las Vegas
(We are 100% up to route additions!)

Based on 18 days I came up with the following:
Flights from Florida $700
Car Rental (he is dead set on a convertible- a luxury to Europeans) $1000 (based on the websites... will there be hidden fees??)
Gas (by using the calculator on the site) $500
How much should I figure into the daily budget? I had guessed around $150 just to be able to see sites and have a nice meal per day, plus sleep in clean hotels.

That brings our honeymoon to more than we are spending on our wedding!

Am I missing something? How can we save? Does this iteriary looks reasonable for 18 days without stressing too much? Am I way off our daily budget?

Thanks!

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Based on 18 days I came up with the following:
Flights from Florida $700
Car Rental (he is dead set on a convertible- a luxury to Europeans) $1000 (based on the websites... will there be hidden fees??)
Gas (by using the calculator on the site) $500
How much should I figure into the daily budget? I had guessed around $150 just to be able to see sites and have a nice meal per day, plus sleep in clean hotels.

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Judy has provided a number of tips (above) about lowering your daily costs, but, yes, I think your budget is reasonable. With respect to the rental costs -- $1000 for a convertible for 18 days seems low -- are you sure that the sum includes the city and country use taxes?

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That brings our honeymoon to more than we are spending on our wedding!

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That is not at all surprising to us. You are attempting to drive hundreds of miles and it is costly. Fun, worthwhile and costly.

How were you planning on doing Yosemite, Sequoia and Death Valley? That is some serious zig-zagging.

Mark

wow. So I think we will probably be back to the drawing board on the honeymoon front.

Yosemite, Sequoia and Death Valley are just 3 places I want to see. Not 100% sure how or when they would fit into the drive.

First, don't travel so far. Stay near Vegas or near California and just explore the nearby areas. There is plenty to do within 500 miles of Las Vegas to keep you busy and enthralled for 18 days. And there is more than enough from San Diego to San Francisco to see in California for 18 days. Heck, you wouldn't even have to leave the coast to enjoy all that time there.

So, I guess what I'm saying is that gas adds up. If you can create a great trip without driving so far, you've already saved yourself a lot of money and you will still be able to have a great time. Personally, I'd pick the Las Vegas area and spend most of my time exploring the various national parks close by in Utah. Most of the attractions in California are going to cost you.

Second, about $100 at any discount store to get camping gear and camp during your trip. You will probably average about $20/day for camping fees. This is a big savings right there.

Third, eat out of a cooler. Save restaurant meals for once per day or even once every-other day like I usually do. You will eat healthier, be able to create fun picnics outside in the beautiful scenic places you're visiting, and will save money. What could be better!

Besides limiting your trip timeframe, these are about your best options for saving money.

Hate to say it, but considering what your baseline plan was... its about in the ballpark.

I ran a sanity check through one of the national rental car sites, and got around $800 for a convertible for that period of time (departing and returning to Las Vegas). $700 looked about right for the plane tickets.

My experience with hotel rooms run around $70-90 as being a reasonable room cost (AAA 2- or 3-diamond places, but not 4 star hotels, etc), plus another $10 a night taxes and fees etc. A good meal in a family-style restaurant will be around $30 or so -- a fancy meal (somewhere with a wine list) would be around $40-50. So $150 a day for traveling expenses (no gas) is reasonable, but may be on the low side if you want to go higher end ...

But if you look at your costs, your highest costs are a) Lodging b) Car, c) Food & Misc, d) Air Fare, and e) Gas.

For lodging, as Judy has suggested, you might consider doing a bit of camping to save money while traveling. That would knock off costs by around $50 a day you campe. Although, this is your honeymoon and I fully expect you'll be spending a day or two somewhere very nice enjoying room service and not doing a lot of going out. But once you start traveling, even staying in a campground every few days, you can save substantial money. I'll typically stay in a campground for 1-2 nights while traveling, and then get a reasonable motel room for variety. Staying in a campground for say 6 nights would save you around $300 or more. 12 nights would save you $600, essentially near the cost of the plane tickets. Judy suggests you can get a basic reasonable set of camping equipment for 2 for around $100. That's possible -- but my estimate is it will run around $170 or so ($40 for a tent, $30 for 2 sleeping pads, $60 for sleeping bags for 2 that zip together, cooking equipment $20, ice chest $10, and 2 camp chairs $10 -- you can get these cheaper perhaps, or quite a bit more expensively, and it can be reused on future trips)

If the convertible is required.. then it may not be negotiable. But dropping back to (for example) a full-size SUV would cut the cost around $150, and to a full size sedan would drop it around $400.

Food costs can be minimized by a) taking advantage of any hotel/motel free "continental breakfast", b) picnicing a lunch out of the cooler on the trip, and c) doing an occasional cooked in camp dinner if you're camping. You'll need a cooler/ ice chest of course, and have to hit up a grocery store for bread, sandwich meats, fruit, etc. but its usually not a problem and sometimes really nice to just find a lonely spot and have an intimate lunch for two. I'll also note, that you can toss in a reasonably good bottle of wine and a corkscrew for well less than restaurant prices (like 1/2 to 1/3...) and if you're camping enjoy a glass of wine, watch the sun go down and enjoy each other's company.

thanks everyone.
I think we will need to come up with something else based on our limited budget :(
I appreciate all of your help!

You haven't said exactly what your budget is, but as long as it is within reason, I have a hard time beliving you couldn't come up with ways to make this trip work. It seems like you are throwing out your whole idea of doing a roadtrip because you can't do it quite as extravagantly as you want.

There have several ideas posted on ways to cut some of your costs. Switching from a convertable to a regular car alone will likely save you $500 or more. Limiting your sightseeing to National Parks and other relatively low cost wonders, and sleeping in clean, but budget rooms, and eating from grocery stores and in local diners will also save a lot over eating at fancy restaurants.

Those things could easily add up to $50-100 a day in savings, and Even if all that didn't bring you down into your budget, you could make this a 10-14 day trip instead of a 18 day trip to save even more money.

It just seems that if this is the trip you want to do, you can find a way to make the money work.

Don't "throw the baby out with the bathwater."

We have all listed ideas for you to make the trip work within your budget. You can find budget hotels or camp. You can eat out of a cooler most meals (actually tastier and healthier than eating in restaurants all the time) and then splurge on a really nice meal once a day. Just doing these two things can easily help you stay under $150/day.

I urge you to reconsider, take our various recommendations under consideration, and let us help you come up with a plan that works for you.