First time in USA- Driving from San Fran to Seattle

Hi everyone! I cannot believe how amazing this forum is :)

My partner and I are planning a 3 month trip to USA/Canada over summer 2012. We are thinking of going June-August.

I was wondering what people's suggestions are when planning a trip from San Fran up to Seattle (and eventually Vancouver). We want to see as many natural wonders as possible. We were thinking of allowing 2-3 weeks and hiring a car or campervan for the leg.

What does everyone think? I really do not know where to start and have no idea what the best places are! Any help would be highly appreciated!

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Originally Posted by reneec133

I really do not know where to start and have no idea what the best places are!

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Start by getting yourself a good detailed map of the western States (or the whole US), and have a look to see what is there. But with 2 - 3 weeks, hopefully closer to three than two, you have the time to include many of the great National Parks of the west - some of the greatest natural wonders of the world. Use the resources of RTA, including the map centre and planning pages, to then check out more detail, and put your dots on the map.

Come back with all the questions which arose while doing all that. lol

BTW, it would help those giving advice, if you could give a sketch of what the rest of your three months includes.

Lifey

Hello and welcome to the RTA forums !

Wow! What an amazing adventure.

There are just so many things that you could consider. I would recommend you search around the forums and use the road trip planning resources in the tool bars above to gather info and when you get a couple of dots on the map we can help to fill in the blanks. The coastal Redwoods and towns, Olympic NP and inland options like Lake Tahoe, Lassen Volcanic park, Crater Lake, Columbia river gorge, Mt St Helens are a few options that spring to mind. Would you have already visited Yosemite NP to the east of SF ?

You realise that you can not rent a car in the US and drop it off in Canada, at least I don't think so and if you could there would be a huge drop off charge.

Enjoy the planning and as new questions come up, just ask.

Hey guys, I'm Renee's partner. Thanks a lot for the tips so far, we will definitely use the resources you have provided us and get back if we have any more questions.

I just thought I'd chip in and answer a couple of questions and add a little more information.

Our basic outlay of the trip is Vegas > Yosemite > San Fran > Seattle (still planning what to do between San Fran and Seattle) > Vancouver > Banff/Calgary loop back to Vancouver > Fly to New York > Washington DC > Chicago > Niagra > Toronto/Montreal/Quebec > Back down though Maine (we want to see Acadia National Park) and Boston to New York and fly home from there.

Sorry if that's a bit long, but it's as short as I could think to cut it down lol. We have estimated that this trip should take probably 3 months, so we're now in the stages of actually planning how to get between places and how long it will take to get between each destination.

Thanks for the tip Dave regarding the beautiful places to visit and the car hire to Vancouver, we'll have to look at alternative methods of getting up north then.

Thanks again for the guidance guys!

Depending on the rental car company, they may let you drive the vehicle in Canada, BUT you will have to pay a hefty one-way drop-off fee if you drop the car anywhere other than where you rented it from. They will also probably prevent you from dropping it in Vancouver, preferring that you drop it in Seattle. If it were me, I think I'd find my car rentals FIRST before going to the airline issue.


Donna

Hi Matthew, and Welcome to the RTA Forums.

You obviously have reasons for visiting the places specified. However, with three months, I am wondering if you have given any thought to doing a more-or-less loop trip. This could start and end either in Canada (there is no problem taking most rental vehicles into the States) or in the States (many, but not all, companies allow travel in Canada).

It just seems that you are doing a lot of backtracking, as well as a flight, with all the modern airport security hassles, all of which is eating into your roadtripping time... when you could be enjoying a lot more of North America's beauty.

Anyway, just another thought!

Lifey

Thank you for that suggestion Lifey. What exactly did you mean by a loop? What we currently had in mind was 2 loops (one of the East and one of the West). We are not keen on driving across the continent (hence the flying between Vancouver and New York).

Thank you for your thoughts Donna, we definitely want to avoid hefty drop off fees. One option appears to be Wicked Vans. The pros are: They allow pick up from San Fran/Sacramento and drop off in Vancouver, they do not charge extra for under 25's, and they are cheap! Cons are: Wicked vans are quite small (the bed looks rough going) and I am not so sure about their reliability and safety. What do you know about the company? Or can you suggest anyone better?

Following your direction Dave and Lifey- I have a done some more in depth research.

How does the following sound?

-Las Vegas (3 nights- including grand canyon heli day trip)
-Drive through Death Valley
-Mammoth Lakes (1 night)
-Yosemite National Park (Bug Hostel 2 nights)
-San Francisco (4-5 nights)
-Sacramento
-Lassen Volcanic National Park
-Redding
-McArthur-Burney Falls Memorial State Park
-Mt Shasta
-Medford//Grants Pass
-Crater Lake National Park
-Portland
-Mount St Helens National Park
-Mount Rainier National Park
-Seattle
-? Olympic National Park
-? Places to stop over on the way from Seattle to Vancouver?
-Vancouver

As you can see I stopped specifying where the overnight stays were and for how long. This bit I am still trying to work out. I am not sure what is practical in terms of driving to a NP, seeing it and driving to another city in one day.

Driving to a national park and trying to see it, all in the same day, definitely depends on how far you're coming from. It also depends on your definition of "seeing it". For some folks, that means stopping at every lookout along the way, getting out and hiking a little bit on a nature trail or even just as far as Bumpass Hell (Lassen). For others, it's a quick drive-through to say "we've been there". My husband and I fall under the first category, and we took 2 days in Lassen and a day at Hat Creek in the lava beds. (We never made it to Burney Falls because of those 2 days in Lassen.)

Crater Lake, if you're the type of sightsee family that we are, will take a good part of the day to drive all the way around. Or you can go up to the Lodge and just "see the lake" from there.

Mount Rainier also can be a two day park, or more if you're inclined to do any hiking.

As for Olympic - - allow AT LEAST one day to go all the way around it. If you're a Twilight series fan, or someone in your travel party is, you may also want to poke around Forks, go out to the beach at La Push, or poke around Port Angeles (where Bella went shopping). Then allow another day from that.


Donna

Well the first part of your trip looks great, so keep doing what you are doing and then we can help 'fine tune' if needed.

I would recommend that you consider finding the time to spend a night at the Grand canyon National park, rather than take a Heli tour from Vegas, most tend to go to the West rim on Indian lands which is not part of the NP system. It's in the NP that you will witness those views made famous the world over through photography, but it's too far from Vegas by road as a day trip. The bonus would be witnessing a sunrise and /or sunset which is truly remarkable. If you were looking forward to a flight, you can fly from Grand canyon airport in Tusayan over the national park area. There are various flights on offer, we took the 50min flight from the South rim, over the Painted desert to the North rim and back. Truly amazing !

Thanks Dave and Donna for the further assistance, it really helps having those with experience share their opinions/tips. We are definitely like you guys, more active, and like to get out, stretch our legs with hikes etc, which there seems to be an abundance of :)

We were actually in the process of looking at helicopter flights too Dave, and we will definitely take your advice into consideration.

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We were actually in the process of looking at helicopter flights too Dave, and we will definitely take your advice into consideration.

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There is nothing wrong with taking a flight over the West Rim, from Henderson or LV. It is the only way you can really get to see this area. The problem arises when folk think they are flying over the NP, when in actual fact, they are over the West Rim, and nowhere near the NP.

Having done both, I must say they are both fantastic and worthwhile... in their own way.

Lifey

Hi Lifey,

This was the plane/heli trip we were looking at: http://www.allgrandcanyontours.com/b...ge=TourDetails

It includes:Complimentary Las Vegas Strip hotel pickup & return included for your convenience. Fly to the Grand Canyon. Soar over Hoover Dam. Land at the Grand Canyon West Rim. Descend into the Grand Canyon on a scenic helicopter flight. Enjoy a guided pontoon riverboat cruise along the Colorado River. Stop at Eagle Point, for incredible photo opportunities. Upgrade and add on a Skywalk pass. Visit Guano Point for a box lunch (meal included).

So in this 7-8 hr tour we wouldn't actually see Grand Canyon NP? What area is the west rim/eagle point considered?

The West Rim is located on Native American Tribal Lands. It's also where the Skywalk is located.

Helicopter flights are not allowed into the canyon within the National Park, and the canyon is not as wide as the massive sections that you'd see within the Park's boundaries. The west rim also is much more limited in terms of viewpoints, compared to the National Park, where you've got dozens of viewpoints (all that show something different!) spread out over several miles.

The elevation of the rim at the west rim is also significantly lower than within the park - so the canyon is basically twice as deep within the NP. And while the fee is likely included within your package price, visiting the West Rim is much more expensive than the National Park. It will cost you $75+ per person to visit the West Rim, while the National Park is $25 for an entire carload for up to a week.

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So in this 7-8 hr tour we wouldn't actually see Grand Canyon NP? What area is the west rim/eagle point considered?

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No, renee, you would not be going to the NP.

On the other hand, it sounds like it would be a great experience, though I would give the Skywalk a miss. But do not regard it as an alternative to visiting the NP. It is an addition to visiting the NP. And you would find, that although both are incredible experiences, they are very different experiences.

Get out a good large detailed map of the area, one which has the perimetre of the park marked on it, and you will see. The Grand Canyon is huge and the NP is part of it.... but the best part!

Lifey

Thanks again guys, very helpful.

Hi everyone,

My partner and I are planning a 2012 road trip from San Francisco to Chicago. We are seeing LA, Vegas, Toronto, Boston & New York before and after the road trip.

We are going to hire a car in San Fran, drop it off in Seattle. Pick another up in Seattle after our cruise, then drop it off in Chicago.

Below is a draft of our route:

6/06- San Fran (stay 3 nights)
9/06- Drive to Yosemite (3 nights)
12/06- Sacramento (1 night)
13/06- Lassen Volcanic National Park region (1 night)
14/06- Mount Shasta region (1 night)
15/06- Klamath Falls (to see Lava Beds National Monument, Klamath Lake) (1 night)
16/06- Crater Lake NP (Fort Klamath) (1 night)
17/06- Newberry National Volcanic Monument (1 night)
18/06- Portland (2 nights)
20/06- Mt St Helens & Mt Rainer NP (2 nights)
22/06- Olympia (1 night)
23/06- Forks (1 night)
24/06- Seattle **Alaska Cruise (7 nights)**
2/07- Arrive back in Seattle 8am. Drive to Vancouver (3 nights)
5/07- Vancouver Island- Victoria (1 night)
6/07- Vancouver Island- Tofino/Ucluelet (2 nights)
8/07- Whistler (2 nights)
10/07- Kamloops (1 night)
11/07- Jasper (2 nights)
13/07- Moraine Lake/Lake Louise region (4 nights)
17/07- Banff (3 nights)
20/07- Calgary (1 night)
21/07- Waterton NP (2 nights)
23/07- Glacier NP (2 nights)
25/07- Helena (1 night)
26/07- Yellowstone National Park (3 nights)
29/07- Stop over on the way to Mt Rushmore (1 night)
30/07- Mt Rushmore (1 night)
31/07- Sioux Falls or somewhere around there (1 night)
1/08- Stop over on the way to Chicago (1 night)
2/08- Arrive Chicago (2 nights)

So as you can see we are most unsure about the section from Yellowstone- Chicago. We do not want to be driving more than approximately 5 hours per day as we are not experienced road trippers and would like to see as many places as possible. We also don't mind if the driving is quite short (as you can see between Lassen & Shasta, etc, as we want to see as much as possible of the national parks during the day).

I would like to get some opinions of our overall trip but also some more specific advice for Yellowstone to Chicago, e.g. do we need to have more stops and where are the nicest places to stop/drive through. We want to see beautiful landscapes and are not too fussed about cities unless they are really special. I have heard that Beartooth hwy from Yellowstone is beautiful- would people suggest that?

Thank you in advance,

Renee

Please keep all questions regarding this trip in one thread. Thank-you.

What happened to the Grand Canyon?

Lifey

My you have been busy !

The Beartooth Hghway would be at the top of most peoples lists while visiting Yellowstone. If you stopped in Billings you would have a 6 hour drive [Approx] toward Mt Rushmore. The trip from Rushmore to Sioux Falls will be most likely a little over 6 hours also and you might want to stop at the Corn Palace in Mitchell. La Crosse would seem to be the next 'natural' stop and has a few attractions [check them out using the 'RTA Map Wizard/centre in the tool bar above, although someone with first hand experience could be along with alternative [better] options.

Hi Dave, sorry I made a new thread- just thought it was a little more than just San Fran to Seattle now. Thanks for your suggestions of places to stop between Yellowstone and Chicago. I hadn't thought of stopping at Billings. So you think allow maybe 3 days to drive to Chicago from Yellowstone comfortably?

Lifey we are planning on visiting the Grand Canyon before our 'road trip' starts. We are flying into Las Vegas, exploring the area and then flying to San Fran, where the driving really starts.

It's going to take you a lot longer than 3 days to get from Yellowstone to Chicago only driving 5 hours a day.

Day 1 - Yellowstone to Billings via the Beartooth - 4 hours or so
Day 2 - Billings to Rushmore area - 6 hours
Day 3 - Rushmore area to Sioux Falls - 6 hours
Day 4+ - Sioux Falls to Chicago - 10 hours

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So you think allow maybe 3 days to drive to Chicago from Yellowstone comfortably?

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I think you misunderstood. :-)

There are different levels of 'comfortable', but if you want to restrict your driving to 5-6 hours a day and sight see, you will need the 5 days [4 nights] as in your original plan. What I was actually suggesting is the first of those 5 days [29th] could be spent driving out of Yellowstone through Red Lodge while driving the Beartooth towards Billings, perhaps even as far as Sheridan WY[?]. The 2nd/3rd and 4th day to Rushmore, Sioux Falls,[Mitchel ?] and La Crosse before continuing to Chicago. These are suggestions based on driving the Beartooth, visiting Rushmore and keeping your driving to about 5-6 hours a day. To do the drive in 3 days would mean being on the road for around 9 hours a day with little time for stops.

I'll note that while you only mentioned Mt. Rushmore, there is much more to see and do in the Black Hills area. Just a few of the other highlights that are worthy of your time would be Devil's Tower (WY), Deadwood, Jewel and/or Wind Caves, and of course my favorite stop in the area, Custer State Park.

Then on your way east, also make sure you are giving yourself time for the Badlands. Many people only spend a couple hours just doing the loop drive off I-90, but this is also a spot you could easily spend a full day.

Yes I think I misunderstood the driving estimates for Yellowstone-Chicago. Now I am thinking about 1 week if we wanted to see badlands, custer state park, etc and still stay to 5-6 hours per day. I will do some more research tonight and post a draft for Yellowstone-Chicago to see what everyone thinks. I really appreciate everyones suggestions.

Another question- is Helena the best stopover for the drive from Glacier NP to Yellowstone?

It all depends on which way you go and what kind of time you are making. Possibilities are Great Falls, Helena, Missoula, Butte, and Bozeman.

Yellowstone → Billings (via Beartooth hwy) - 2.50 hours
Billings → Rapid City (Mt Rushmore, Custer State Park) - 5.14 hours
Rapid City → Badlands National Park (stay somewhere around there) - 1.19 hours
Badlands National Park → Sioux Falls - 4.3 hours
Sioux Falls → La Crosse - 4.35 hours
La Crosse → Chicago - 4.52 hours

(6 days, 5 nights in total)

We want to spend most of the last day in Yellowstone (hence only 2.50 hours travelling the first day) and some time in the Mt Rushmore/Badlands vicinity, hence the extra time on the third day. I have looked up some nice scenic drives/hikes through Custer & Badlands- it all looks fantastic!

Where is a good place to stay around Badlands National Park?

Is La Crosse anything special?

You really have a flaw with your driving times - in that you really aren't taking into account the extra time needed to take in the scenery.

The Beartooth is the biggest example. You might be able to physically drive from Yellowstone to Billings in just under 3 hours, but that's if you don't stop to enjoy the viewpoints and stops along the Beartooth. This past summer, I spent about 3-4 hours just driving from Red Lodge to the NW gate of Yellowstone. It was then about another hour from that gate to through the Lamar Valley to the main loop road of Yellowstone (where will you be staying in the park?). Its also about an hour from Red Lodge to Billings. My concern with your plan is that if you spend "most of the day" in Yellowstone, you could easily be looking at arriving in Billings well after dark.

Some of your other drive times are also unrealistic. Billings to Rapid City is also likely going to take you about 6 hours, and that's before you make other stops or start adding the extra miles to get to Rushmore and Custer which can add quite a bit more driving.

I think it would actually make a bit more sense to try to stay in Keystone than Rapid City, which would allow you to see Mt. Rushmore on the evening you arrive. Then you can focus on Custer and the Badlands on your second day, going via Iron Mountain Road (one of my favorite mountain drives with some great views of Rushmore), and taking in the Wildlife Loop at Custer.

LaCrosse is a nice stop, with the focus being on the Mississippi River and surrounding bluffs. Several attractions are included in RTA's map center.

Thanks for the feedback Michael.

How about this?

Yellowstone → Red Lodge (via Beartooth hwy) - 2.50 hours (1st night)
Red Lodge → Sheridan (stopping at Bighorn Canyon on way) - 4 hours (2nd night)
Sheridan → Keystone (seeing Rushmore that afternoon if we can) -4 hours (3rd night)
Keystone → Badlands NP (Scenic drives through Custer State Park on the way, exploring Badlands for the rest of day) - 1.15 hours (4th night)
Badlands National Park → Sioux Falls - 4.30 hours (5th night)
Sioux Falls → La Crosse - 4.35 hours (6th night)
La Crosse → Chicago - 4.52 hours

So 7 days and 6 nights now.

Hi Renee,

It's great to see you include the Big Horn Canyon in the plan. The Big Horn Mts do not often get a mention on folks' itenary, but for me were a great surprise the first time I stumbled upon them, and I still try to traverse them each time I am in the area.

From I-90 take 310 to Lovel and Alt 14 over the Big Horn Mts. A side trip up 37 takes you along the canyon, and further along Alt 14 there is a short side trip to the Medicine Wheel. The high plains of the Big Horn Mts abound with wildlife. My first experience with Nth American wildlife was here, when a moose stood in front of my car, and was not going to let me go till it was good and ready to move. I was so surprised and stunned, I failed to reach for my camera, and don't have any visual proof of the event.

With stopping and exploring it will take longer than four hours, but the actual driving time should be pretty close.

Lifey

Thanks for that information Lifey- I hope we see a Moose!

So how far up the 37 did you drive? For example on this map- http://www.nps.gov/bica/planyourvisi...CAParkmap1.pdf
Did you stop at anything else along the 37?

Then you headed back on the Alt 14 and towards Sheridan/Buffolo?

Aww! Renee, that was in 2001. Gee I am not sure. I never saw a map of the place, I just followed my nose (and signposts), and fly by the seat of my pants.

Trying to remember, and looking at that map, which as I said, I have not seen before, it was probably to Horseshoe Bend. There was a lady there counting the mountain sheep and wild horses. She was from some volunteer society. We talked for ages, and then it was time for me to head on, it was getting late. That night I stayed in Dayton.

My only concern when I read your posts (and most others who post here), is that you seem not to allow time to enjoy these interruptions along the way. I could never book myself to your time schedule. I drive until I am ready to stop, and then I find a motel. So long as I am quarter way through the trip when quarter way through the time, etc. I just enjoy whatever I meet along the way, and never know where I am going or will be the next day.

Enjoy!!

Lifey

Hi everyone, me again!

So it is getting close to our trip (feels like forever ago we started planning). We have booked or decided on most of the details for the trip, however are still unsure about one section.

We are hiring a car in San Fran on 9th June and driving to Yosemite. We are staying 3 nights in Yosemite, thus leaving on the 12th of June. Then we are stuck... We need to be in Portland by the 18th of June so we have 6 nights to travel that distance. The places that interest us include:

-Redwoods
-Lake Tahoe
-Crater Lake
-Mt Shashta
-Mt Lassen NP

We are conscious that it will still be spring and we could face chilly weather and unmelted snow. I have researched Lassen & Crater Lake in spring and sometimes the roads are not even cleared that early in the season by the sounds of things.

Has anyone travelled to any of the above places and can give some advice on what would be the best to see in Spring.

Cheers,

Renee

P.S. Any cool names for a travel blog?

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P.S. Any cool names for a travel blog?

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Renee, why not post it here, for future roadtrippers to read. Your experiences will help others. Besides that, we like to hear how you got on, and see some of the places you went.

Lifey

Hi Renee.

You certainly have time to hit all the destinations you have mentioned in your 6/7 day time frame from Yosemite to Portland. You are right that you could see varied weather conditions, but Crater and Lassen are open year round. There maybe limited access with some roads closed, but it can also be quite spectacular without the crowds. Being a short season, these places can get pretty packed out in the height of season and Crater Lake is on my 'to do ' list in June, with images of deep blue waters and sky's broken by the white of snow covered mountain peaks, in my mind. [Not to say it will be !]

You could leave SF via the Golden Gate Bridge to Muir woods for some Redwoods, or you would need to zig-zag a little to and from the coast and add quite a few miles, if you wanted to visit the Humboltd forest and Redwood NP for example. Altogether a different species, you also have the option to visit the Giant Sequoia trees near the south kiosk of Yosemite in Mariposa Grove.

If you were to go from Mt Shasta to Crater Lake you could consider continuing through Bend OR to Hood River and head into Portland along the Columbia River Gorge.

Hopefully the Tioga pass [CA120] will be open [very good chance] and I would certainly take that route over the Sierras and then up to Tahoe.

Correct, Lassen and Crater Lake are open year-round, but vehicle access is VERY limited till they get all the snow cleared. Right now at Lassen, the entrances are open only to the visitor's center which is right inside the entrance. Until the main park road is open (CA-89), there's really no point in going, you can't see anything. The snow cover at the south entrance right now is 7.5 feet. At Crater Lake, the Rim Drive will be closed well into spring and possibly summer - the only year-round access is the south entrance to the Rim Village. At least you can get that far and actually see the lake.

Thanks for the input guys. I guess we will just look at the weather before we leave Australia and see if the snow has cleared/roads are open. We heard that the snow fall on the west coast was not as heavy this past winter compared to usual...?

We are planning a very similar trip to yourself and wondered what your final route map looked like:)

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Thanks for the input guys. I guess we will just look at the weather before we leave Australia and see if the snow has cleared/roads are open. We heard that the snow fall on the west coast was not as heavy this past winter compared to usual...?

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There has been nowhere near the normal snowfall in the Sierras, although I am not sure how the Cascades are fairing, I would think it is a similar story. Lassen can open anytime from mid May to Mid July and all you can do is keep an eye on the weather and current conditions as you go.

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We are planning a very similar trip to yourself and wondered what your final route map looked like:)

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Hi Waugh01, welcome to the RTA forums !

I hope you have found RTA to be helpful in your planning. If you would like to discuss your trip in more detail, you are more than welcome to create your own thread and ask specific questions. There will be quite a few route options, and different ways to 'tweak' your route, so I will leave your question to the original poster, for them to respond to in the meantime.

Dave.

Thanks for that info Dave.

Waugh here is our route, I hope it is helpful!

3/06- Fly into LA, CA (stay 3 nights)
6/06- Fly to San Fran, CA (stay 3 nights)
9/06- Yosemite NP, CA (3 nights)
12/06- Lake Tahoe, CA (2 nights)
14/06- Lassen Volcanic NP, CA (1 night)
15/06- Crater Lake, OR (2 nights)
17/06- Bend, OR (1 night) (4.3 hours to Portland via Columbia Gorge)
18/06- Portland, OR (2 nights)
20/06- Mt St Helens (Castle Rock), WA (1 night)
21/06- Mt Rainer NP (Paradise), WA (2 nights)
23/06- Seattle, WA (1 night)
24/06- Alaska Cruise (8 nights)
2/07- Arrive in Seattle early morning from cruise. Drive to Vancouver, BC (3 nights)
5/07- Vancouver Island- Victoria, BC (1 night)
6/07- Vancouver Island – Cowichan Bay, BC (2 nights)
8/07- Whistler, BC (2 nights)
10/07- Clearwater, BC (1 night)
11/07- Jasper, AB (2 nights)
13/07- Moraine Lake Lodge, AB (4 nights)
17/07- Banff, AB (3 nights)
20/07- Calgary, AB (1 night)
21/07- Waterton Lakes NP, AB (2 nights)
23/07- Glacier NP, MT (2 nights)
25/07- Helena, MT (1 night)
26/07- Yellowstone NP, WY (3 nights)
29/07- Red Lodge, MT (1 night)
30/07- Sheridan, WY (1 night)
31/07 Keystone, SD (1 night)
1/08 Badlands NP, SD (1 night)
2/08- Sioux Falls, SD (1 night)
3/08- La Crosse, WI (1 night)
4/08- Arrive Chicago, IL (2 nights)
6/08- Fly to Toronto (2 nights)
8/08 Fly to New York, NY (12 nights)
20/08- Fly to Las Vegas, NV (2 nights)
22/08- Fly to LA, CA (1 night)
23/08- Fly home to Melbourne, Aus

So excited!!!