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  1. Default october road trip

    hi , in october this year my wife and i will be having a vacation in las vegas as we are from england we dont know the area, we fly into vegas on 13th october , we are hiring a car and intend to drive to utah and return to vegas for 5 days on 30th october. we would like to see utah which we havent visited before. we would like to get ideas for a route ,we would prefer to avoid the highways as much as possible and use back roads as long as they are safe. we dont want to cover large distances each day , and would like ideas for must not miss stops and places to stay and eat.
    yours martin hankins

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    Hello and welcome to RTA !

    If I am reading it correctly, you have about 16 days for the roadtrip ? that gives you quite a few options and we dont really believe in must sees as its different for everyone. You will find lots of info searching the forums and checking out some decent maps. A popular canyons tour would include Zion, Bryce canyon, Capital Reef (including a drive along UT scenic 12) Arches and Canyonlands. Other places would be Grand canyon (north or south rim or both) PageAZ for Antelope canyon, Horseshoe bend, Lake Powell, Monument valley and you could even venture into Colorado for Mesa Verde NP and lots more. Do a bit of research and once you have found your very own must sees, we can help piece it all together.

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    Default Visit the RTA store.

    And if you can't get any good maps locally, scroll down to the bottom of this page. From the RT store you can order a Rand McNally road atlas, which, if you order it now you will have in a couple of weeks.

    Lifey

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    Default The Mighty Five (and a Few More)

    Any comprehensive tour of Utah should be built around the Mighty Five, five world-class natural wonders, as well as the Great Salt Lake, Salt Lake City, and a few other sites as time, route, and your interests dictate. A basic working route that would include all of those sites would go something like this. From Las Vegas, take I-15 (sorry, but there is no alternative to this motorway for this portion of the trip) to past St. George and at Exit 16 take UT-9 to Zion National Park. Next, continue east on UT-9 to US-89 north to UT-12 east to Bryce Canyon. Keep going east on UT-12 to UT-24 and Capitol Reef National Park. Returning to UT-24k keep going and use I-70 for a short stretch eastbound (again, no other option) to US-191/I-15 north up to the Salt Lake area.

    From Salt Lake, the return leg would leave the city on I-80 eat to US-40 east to Jensen UT and a possible 'detour' on UT-149 to Dinosaur National Monument. After returning to US-40, you'd continue on into Colorado and take CO-64/CO-139 south to I-70 west for just a bit to UT-128 south to US-191 north to Arches National Park. At this point the easiest way to include Canyonlands National Park is to continue north on US-191 to UT-313 east into the Islands in the Sky section of the park, then return to US-191 and head south until you reach US-163 which will take you trough Medicine Hat to Monument Valley. Note that Monument Valley is a Navajo Tribal Park, not a National Park, so the National Parks Pass will not work there, but will for every other park on your tour. Back on US-163 south, head down to Kayenta and US-160 west to US-89 south and AZ-64 through Grand Canyon National Park. At Williams take I-40 west to Seligman. There you'll have a chance to drive the longest remaining stretch of old Route 66, now marked as AZ-66 through Peach Springs to Kingman. This section of road was the visual inspiration for the movie Cars. From Kingman, US-93 will return you to Las Vegas by way of Hoover Dam.

    AZBuck
    Last edited by AZBuck; 07-02-2016 at 09:04 AM. Reason: Corrected route #

  5. Default october road trip thanks that gives us a lot to think about and work through

    Thanks that gives us a lot to think about.
    Last edited by AZBuck; 07-02-2016 at 09:05 AM. Reason: Removed quote of entire previous post.

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    Wow! You have enough time to really see Utah's wonders. Temperatures in October will vary according to altitude so range from the 70s down below freezing, although you probably won't hit any snow unless you head way up into the mountains. Be sure to dress accordingly.

    For off the beaten road, try geocaching. There are fabulous areas in Utah to which geocaching will lead you. I can list some of my favorites if you're interested.

    All of the parks listed above are fantastic, different, and worth your time. I also suggest Goblin Valley State Park. If you watched the movie GALAXY QUEST, you've already had a glimpse of it. It has several geocaches too.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=renZN3G2q7Y

    If the river is low, take the NARROWS HIKE UP THE VIRGIN RIVER in Zion. It could be the highlight of your vacation, even outshadowing the Grand Canyon. It is my number one favorite Utah experience.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-lfAoFgi7VU

    Likewise, when you visit Bryce, don't settle for the gorgeous views from the rim. HIKE DOWN into it, traverse the valley floor, and come back up by another trail.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8gqnDHjm5yw

    If you really want to get off the beaten path, head into the San Rafael Swell. Miles of secluded dirt roads, many of which can safely be traveled by a rental car, but some which can not. Geocaching in this area is fun too.

    http://mobile.castlecountry.com/San-Rafael-Swell/

    I envy you!

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    Default Dirt Roads in a Rental

    Some rental contracts allow driving on dirt roads, some do not. You will have to look at the Terms and Conditions of the particular firm you are considering hiring your car from to see what their policy is. What you want to look at particularly is the description of allowed or restricted road types. If the policy restricts you to 'paved' roads, then dirt ones are out. If it restricts you to 'regularly maintained' roads, then dirt ones are allowed if the road carries any sort of official designation. This would include Forest Service roads, BLM roads, Indian Reservation roads and the like. Be aware that essentially every rental car today comes with a GPS tracker (but NOT a GPS mapping device of any use to you) that allows the car hire company to tell exactly where you've been. If you've driven off allowed roads and the car has damage, YOU will be responsible for it not the insurance company which will, rightly, claim that you violated the terms of the contract and thus their responsibility.

    AZBuck

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    AZ Buck made some very good points.

    Some parts of the San Rafael Swell require 4 wheel drive but much of it is flat smooth dirt road that is very easy to drive. A careful review of the different sightseeing loops will tell you which is which. The roads I drove in my rental car were similar to those in the following video. Not much different than Capital Reef or Monument Valley if I recall. Make sure your rental agreement allows travel on the maintained dirt roads; It is worth the trip.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SxeNhxrWb_Q

    I-70 cuts right through it. It is a spectacular drive (especially downhill, east to west) and you can take an exit into the Swell.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CMHnGzqTIVY

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    thanks for a lot for all the great ideas it will take my wife and i a while to go through, unfortunatly i wont be hiking on any trails as I have M.S. i loved hiking before , but now mainly use my mobility scooter , although i am sure it wont stop my wife and i enjoying our vacation in your wonderful country
    Quote Originally Posted by travelingman View Post
    Wow! You have enough time to really see Utah's wonders. Temperatures in October will vary according to altitude so range from the 70s down below freezing, although you probably won't hit any snow unless you head way up into the mountains. Be sure to dress accordingly.

    For off the beaten road, try geocaching. There are fabulous areas in Utah to which geocaching will lead you. I can list some of my favorites if you're interested.

    All of the parks listed above are fantastic, different, and worth your time. I also suggest Goblin Valley State Park. If you watched the movie GALAXY QUEST, you've already had a glimpse of it. It has several geocaches too.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=renZN3G2q7Y

    If the river is low, take the NARROWS HIKE UP THE VIRGIN RIVER in Zion. It could be the highlight of your vacation, even outshadowing the Grand Canyon. It is my number one favorite Utah experience.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-lfAoFgi7VU

    Likewise, when you visit Bryce, don't settle for the gorgeous views from the rim. HIKE DOWN into it, traverse the valley floor, and come back up by another trail.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8gqnDHjm5yw

    If you really want to get off the beaten path, head into the San Rafael Swell. Miles of secluded dirt roads, many of which can safely be traveled by a rental car, but some which can not. Geocaching in this area is fun too.

    http://mobile.castlecountry.com/San-Rafael-Swell/

    I envy you!

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    Utah has drop dead gorgeous scenery you can enjoy without ever leaving your car. Even so, there are areas you can enjoy by wheelchair. Although I have no personal experience in this matter, I ran into this website that you might find helpful. I hope you have a wonderful vacation.

    http://www.wheelchairtraveling.com/o...southern-utah/

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