hi, Everyone im new to this forum but i have always loved travelling around the states. Dont know why i haven't found it earlier. The west coast area though is brand new to me. I would like to plan a trip for my upcoming 50th birthday, It is not until December 2013 but i would like to start now to plan as i can judge the pricing and the weather if i start now. I would like to as a couple of questions, Firstly is the weather ok for the beginning of December and also what is the best route to take. I am looking at around 2 days in SF followed by 2 or 3 days travelling to Vegas then spending around 4 there. I have been to Vegas before but that was 20 years ago. I have seen on the web that the quickest route can be quite boring and the other options could possibly be through Yosemite and death valley, Any help and experiences would be greatly appreciated.