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  1. Default Southwest roadtrip and Route 66? LA -> GC

    Hey all,
    Am heading over to your fair country in a couple of months and am road-tripping from LAX to the GC, via Vegas and through Death Valley & Yosemite to San Fran at the beginning of May. Have been reading up on the threads (since that seems a pretty common route :) ) and have gotten some good ideas on things to look out for, so thanks for that. :)

    I do have a question concerning the LA-Flagstaff section of the drive. We're trying to take Route 66 as much as possible; I've downloaded the GPS route for it so hopefully won't have too much trouble staying on it, but I'm hoping y'all can give me a some pointers on a couple of things, namely:

    - Sections of the Route that I definitely shouldn't miss
    - Sections that would be better to avoid/aren't really worth seeing/could take days.

    Don't mind taking it slow but am still pretty much counting on getting to the Grand Canyon in the one day.. deosn't seem like that should be too difficult but would welcome all your tips, etc.. :)
    Last edited by Southwest Dave; 03-19-2010 at 01:26 AM.

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    Default '66

    Hello and welcome to the RTA forums !

    LA to GC is around a 10 hour day so quite doable but not a lot of time for detours. The sections between Ludlow and Needles [through Amboy] and Kingman to Seligman are popular but Have a look at this page for all things '66. Williams is a nice little 66 town as well if you take a drive around from I 40.

    Perhaps you have an old shoe for this route 66 odditty.

    If we can help with other aspects of your trip just ask, enjoy the RTA pages !

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    If you can spread it out to 2 days, the real old section between Topock and Kingman up through Oatman is worth it. If you have to do this in one day, I'd advise you only take 2 stretches - the ones that Dave mentioned. If you take 2 days, you will have time to stop and check out a lot of the old towns such as Victorville, Barstow, Needles, etc.

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    Heya, cheers for those comments :) You've picked on exactly my thoughts - I'd identified those two routes as the definites and the road up from Topock as the "would be nice if we have time" - we're actually starting in LA at around 3:30 on Day 1 and hopefully getting to GC with enough afternoon left on Day 2 to do a small amount of wandering around, but for driving purposes it's effectively one day. I'm hoping to overnight in BullHead city, so for Oatman I was planning on heading across from Mesquite Creek, so skipping the Topock-Oatman but hitting Oatman-Kingman. Looking at the schedule though it could be pushing it to make it from LA to BHC so what would be the -great- places to look at overnighting along the Ludlow-Amboy-Essex-Goffs-Bannock road? I think that way we could make the GC by mid-afternoon while still passing through Topock-Kingman-Peach Springs etc.

    We're also heading back from the GC to Las Vegas and then on to San Franscisco after that so we could skip Peach springs on the eastward leg & take it on the trip west, if that provided some advantage, i.e. if say Essex-GC in half a day was really pushing it.

    For reference, here's the plan for the rest of our trip:

    4th May Arrive GC mid-afternoon; overnight on rim.
    5th May overnight on rim GC
    6th May GC-Williams-Kingman on I-40-Hoover Dam on AZ-93-Las Vegas arriving mid/late-afternoon, overnight in LV
    7th May overnight in LV
    8th May LV-Death Valley via Pahrump & Ashford Junction
    9th May DV - Yosemite
    10th May Yosemite - San Francisco

    I do have some questions regarding this section of it but I'll post those in the other forums since it doesn't concern Rte66 anymore ;)

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    If you want to spend the night in Bullhead City, check the prices at the casino hotels in Laughlin. You may be able to get a room at a place like Harrah's for $25. You are looking at about a 5 hour drive from LA to BHC with no stops, taking old 66 through Amboy. There aren't any places to spend a night between Barstow and Needles.

    To get from Oatman from there, take Bullhead Parkway south till it ends at 95 and go south on 95 (or take 95 if you are staying in town). Go south 6 miles from that intersection and turn left on Boundary Cone Road (County 153).

    Tioga Pass may not be open yet so you may have to go through Bakersfield or Tahoe to get to Yosemite.

    The mods prefer you keep all questions about a single trip in one thread. If you start a new thread, they will combine them.

  6. Default Big Sur question: How far is far enough

    I remember reading a while back that CA-1 was good down to a point, and then not worth continuing - just can't find that post anymore. I'll be staying in SF for a week and am hoping to shoot downthe coast one day, stay overnight somewhere & then head back up again. So from SF down the coast, how far "should" we go and what point is the place to turn around? :) This will be mid-May.

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    Default How long is a piece of string !

    I remember reading a while back that CA-1 was good down to a point, and then not worth continuing - just can't find that post anymore.
    It's amazing what you can find on the Internet !! It's good all the way to the point you want to get to, or have the time to do so. As you only have one night I would look at Cambria, Cayucus or Morro bay as a finish point which will take you through the most popular and talked about section from Monterey around Big Sur.

    If you want to visit other sections of 66 it is entirely possible to go through Peach springs on the way back to Vegas.

    As glc noted there is a good chance the Tioga pass [CA120] from near Mono lake will still be closed due to winter snow accumulation on the high ground.

    Note] We do prefer to keep all questions about the same trip in the same thread, it builds a clearer picture and is easier to follow then parts of the trip spread around the forum. [I have changed the title, let me know if you want it different.]

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    So from SF down the coast, how far "should" we go and what point is the place to turn around? :)
    Well, if you go as far as San Luis Obispo, it would take you about 4 to 5 hours to get back to SF via US-101, it's about 230 miles and 101 is freeway grade most of the way. What you could do is break up the coast trip into 2 segments - between SF and Monterey, and from Monterey to SLO. If you look at it as a "figure 8" you could take the section from SF to Monterey in one direction, and the section between Monterey and SLO in the other direction, giving you 2 full days on the road with an overnight in SLO. There are some reasonably priced hotels in SLO, including a couple Motel 6's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southwest Dave View Post
    Note] We do prefer to keep all questions about the same trip in the same thread, it builds a clearer picture and is easier to follow then parts of the trip spread around the forum. [I have changed the title, let me know if you want it different.]
    YEah no problems, cheers for that ;) I was a little confused at first, wasn't sure if I'd just forgotten what I'd called the thread, hahah.

    That figure-8 you mentioned is a good idea... though we're in SF for 7 days total so not in too much of a rush but definitely an option to consider :)

    The last part of our trip is LA - SF, passing through Death Valley and Yosemite, the plan is for three nights along the way leaving LV early-ish morning. Are there cabin-type lodgings or towns with accomodation or do we need to be moving outta the park for overnighting? I'm off to South Africa after this trip for the world CUp & can't afford the room for camping gear, etc..

    Also as we have 3 nights to allocate, would would be your recommendations on routes and stopping points? A colleague suggested 178 through Ashford Junction as a starting point but pretty clueless outside of that... and what are the chances that our roads through the parks will still be closed? Are we talking 50/50, 80/20? It seemed to me that two nights from LV-SF would be enough and we'd add an extra day for LV but if we end up taking detours due to road closures I guess we might end up needing that 3rd night anyway....

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    Default 50/50 at best.

    A popular route from Vegas across Death valley would be to take the 160 to Pahrump and then the Locals road called Ash Meadows/State line road to Death valley junction and then across on 190 where you could check out lodgings at Panamint Springs. Check out this video from Megan that crosses DV in the opposite direction but will provide a good insight.

    Then you need to know the Tioga pass status and whether to carry on heading North on 136 to Lone pine and 395 N towards Mono lake or head South around the mountains through Bakersfield, which could be your best choice if Tioga is closed because of time restrictions. [heading North towards Tahoe is an option]. I would use all three nights either way as by the time you have covered the miles a couple of nights near Yosemite [giving you a day and a half to explore] is well worth it to see this wonderful place. You could check out the Yosemite bug for a rustic lodging choice or nearby towns like El Portal, Mariposa or Oakhurst, inside the park is dearer but there is the option to sleep under canvas in Curry village that you can check out on the Yosemite website.

    Tough to give odds on the Tioga, especially so early on so I would say 50/50, but you can see the previous opening and closing dates by following the link in this thread. Keep an eye on it as you will get updates and new info/predictions nearer to the time, you might want to chance your luck and take a guess, you never know !

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