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    Default cannonball... sort of

    This year a group of us plans to drive from the Jacksonville Beach Pier in Florida to the San Diego pier in California and back to the Jacksonville Beach pier non stop, in under 75 hours using mostly I-10. There will only be stops for gas. We know the real cannonball run route is New york to LA, but this route on I-10 sounds like it could be a great route, call it the "Pier Run". Has anybody here ever driven I-10 nonstop b4?

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    Default miserable, reckless, just a bad idea

    Welcome to the RTA Forum!

    You know that movies don't usually reflect the realities of life, and a movie that spends 2 hours showing how great it would be to drive across the country non-stop, ignores all of the many many things which make such an ordeal lots of hard work and a pretty miserable trip - not anything that most people would call fun?

    What most people would call this is an extremely reckless idea, where you will be putting others lives at risk by driving without getting nearly enough rest, just so you can do something you saw on a fictional movie.

    I'll also say that doing this trip in under 75 hours simply is not even possible. Even in the most optimistic situation where you only stop for gas and drive slightly above the speed limit and hit almost no traffic, you're still going to be looking at more than 80 hours on the road.

    Maybe the best question that could be asked is Why? What makes you think you could actually do something like this safely and get any sort of enjoyment out of it?

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    Default Point of Order, Point of Order....

    I totally agree with all of Midwest Michael's points except one...

    The Cannonball was based on a real event -- the Gumball Rally/Race and the Gumball is back to being run every year. In most states, the highway patrol assigns "unofficial" escorts to the race cars to ensure that they drive a little closer to the speed limits of the land, but these are serious race cars... Here's more about the 2009 Gumball....

    A video from the line-up in Santa Monica

    The "official site"

    One of my colleagues covered the race here in Las Vegas -- I'll try and find his field report.

    That being said, trying to replicate the race without the auspices of the professional drivers and their support teams is just plain dumb.

    By the way, if you'd like to participate in a very cool and fun road race -- where speed is the name of the game -- consider this semi-annual event in Nevada! -- The Silver State Classic!

    Mark

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    Hello callofnature-

    When I first viewed your post, I thought to myself "please don't let me be on the road with these folks".

    And I know rides or drives like this are done often (the Iron Butt and Double Iron Butt motorcycle riders come to mind), but that doesn't make it a good idea.

    Having spent many an hour on multi-driver straight-through XC trips as a geology student in the 1970s, allow me to comment on several myths about epic XC travel.

    1) It's fun and an adventure. Wrong, it's excruciating and pure drudgery after the first day.

    2) We'll have multiple drivers, so someone will always be fresh. Wrong, nobody will get any meaningful, decent rest. Sleeping soundly in a moving car is simply not possible for most individuals. Thinking you can do so for 3 days is foolish bordering on delusional.

    3) We can average "X" mph since the speed limits are "Y" mph. Wrong, even with minimal stops, your "beginning to end" average speed is not likely to be much over 60 mph. And let me assure you, averaging 60 mph requires some serious bending of the speed limits, and that requires minimal traffic, good weather, few construction or detour delays, etc. Consider the very likely vehicle fuel range and therefore the need to stop at least every 4 hours for fuel (and assuming everybody's bladder can be calibrated to allow for combined fuel, snacks, and nature stops) that still means 6 stops every 24 hours. As I roughly calculate it, your total trip is around 4,750 mi, requiring an average of 63.33mph to do it in 75 hours. That's just a very unrealistic pace on such a long trip, and not likely to happen.

    4) We'll have a great time. Wrong, you of course will at first, then you'll become irritable due to lack of sleep. That and the close quarters will then have everybody's driving habits and other personal oddities will produce great annoyance to all of the others. By the end of the trip, the stench in the vehicle alone will be a source of considerable misery. At best, you're likely to start out as friends, but finish the trip and not see or speak to one another for some time.

    Take it from someone who's been there, done that, and has the T-shirt (Appalachian State Geology, Class of 1978): This is a lousy idea. Don't do it.

    Foy

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    Default Joining the fray

    I am veteran of these kinds of runs... I ran a mobile marketing company for a while... I've driven LA to Washington DC in less than three days and probably my most fatigued run was from Tucson to Dallas in a DANGEROUSLY short period of time.

    I can second that even with a three member team of semi-professional drivers (rotating every four hours) driving non-stop for three days is nearly insane -- unless you're on a closed race course.

    I've had way too many close calls when I was driving impaired due to lack of sufficient, restful sleep to ever advocate this form of lunacy. In my youth, I liked the challenge of it and I've logged over a million road trip miles -- but driving sleepy is as dangerous as driving high...

    Mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by callofnature View Post
    This year a group of us plans to drive from the Jacksonville Beach Pier in Florida to the San Diego pier in California and back to the Jacksonville Beach pier non stop, in under 75 hours using mostly I-10. There will only be stops for gas. We know the real cannonball run route is New york to LA, but this route on I-10 sounds like it could be a great route, call it the "Pier Run". Has anybody here ever driven I-10 nonstop b4?
    Are you doing this just so you can say you did it? You'll see nothing on the way, and you'll waste time and resources.

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    ok i know everybody thinks this is a bad idea, but Alex Roy averaged over 90 mph from NY to California he holds the Cannonball run record. I know this takes an incredible amount of planning and luck. With great efforts in planning, cautious driving, live traffic and weather updates, GPS with all known speed traps programed, a scanner, CB radio, and a Valentine radar detector 66 mph is possible.

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    Default no if you are even close to legal

    Its quite clear you've ignored all of the advice that you've been given so far, and you still haven't answered my question: why?

    But in response to your statement that you can average 66 mph, the reality is that no, it is not possible to average that kind of speed over the length of your trip without spending most of your on the road time traveling well above 90 miles per hour. My personal best for a full day of travel, making nothing more than the shortest and fewest possible stops is 62 mph, and that required traveling at 80-85 mph for the majority of the day.

    Your attitude towards this trip, quite frankly, is extremely cavalier and naive. We can only hope that you come to your senses before you end up seriously hurting someone because you think you as an amateur on a first time trip can replicate something done by only the most serious of professionals.

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